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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun February 14, 2016 4:30 am
by The Argonaut
Saying something that you agree with doesn't make him reasonable. He doesn't use reason to decide what to say.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun February 14, 2016 4:36 am
by LoathedVermin72
The Argonaut wrote:Saying something that you agree with doesn't make him reasonable. He doesn't use reason to decide what to say.
Taking a nuanced view of PP and consistently saying he plans to work with democrats instead of stonewalling them seems pretty reasonable to me.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun February 14, 2016 4:47 am
by BurtReynolds
I can't stomach watching this stuff, but from what I've seen, he really does seem to run circles around the others. This is his arena for sure.

This is all relative to the idiots he's running against, though.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon February 15, 2016 2:40 am
by tommymtcom
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara ... rs-elected
“The unpledged delegates are a separate category. The only thing available on the ballot in a primary and a caucus is the pledged delegates – those that are tied to the candidate that they are pledged to support, and they receive a proportional number of delegates going in to our convention.

“Unpledged delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman-Schultz explained.

“We are, as a Democratic Party, really highlight and emphasize inclusiveness and diversity at our convention, so we want to give every opportunity to grassroots activists and diverse committed Democrats to be able to participate, attend, and be a delegate at the convention. So we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn’t competition between them,” she added.
Did she mean to say that? Does it seem to anyone else that both parties are getting really lazy about pretending they aren't corrupt as shit?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon February 15, 2016 3:48 am
by 96583UP
McParadigm wrote:How dare rich music entertainers use their platform to fight segregation oppose war support abortion rights question the war on terror discuss police brutality in a public place.

Now is not the time.
yes i overlooked that simpler theme in my haste to extract a deeper thesis from the superbowl halftime show,

as usual.

In retrospect it was optimistic to think that their core socialist ideals were being invoked as opposed to just the use of their imagery to convey that people are really tired of being shot at

which is just as potentially transformative as amending the social contract

"Police: don't shoot black people"

Fred Hampton would doubtless agree with that

10-4

dance at will

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon February 15, 2016 3:57 am
by 96583UP
Simple Torture wrote:Way to bring up Stalin, Dr. Ben.
and essentially implying that voting for any of the other candidates means that Stalin wins

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Tue February 16, 2016 10:26 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Rank the GOP candidates:

1. Kasich
2. Trump
3. Carson
4. Rubio
5. Cruz

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Tue February 16, 2016 10:44 pm
by Birds in Hell
Poor Jeb.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Tue February 16, 2016 10:59 pm
by tommymtcom
1. Trump
2. Kasich (not for his policies, but because he seems like a decent guy)
3. The other three turds. (Rubio, Jeb and Cruz)

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Tue February 16, 2016 11:05 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Birds in Hell wrote:Poor Jeb.
lol, I literally forgot he existed

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 4:09 am
by Kaius
Honest question: do Australians and other English-speaking non-Americans typically follow U.S. politics closely or do we just have a coincidentally high number of interested and well-informed posters on this board?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 4:48 am
by Dev

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 4:53 am
by BurtReynolds
poor jeb

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 4:57 am
by Dev
BurtReynolds wrote:poor jeb
he really is the worst

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 5:02 am
by BurtReynolds
Dev wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:poor jeb
he really is the worst
you're just saying that because he is a huge nerd.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 6:33 pm
by Mine
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e ... SKCN0VR277
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is "not Christian" because of his views on immigration, Pope Francis said on his way back to Rome from Mexico.

The pope said, however, he did not want to advise American Catholics on whether or not to vote for Trump.

In a freewheeling conversation with reporters on his flight back from a visit to Mexico, Francis was asked about Trump and some of his statements, such as vowing to build a wall between the United States and Mexico if he becomes president.

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," Francis said in answer to a specific question about Trump's views. "This is not in the gospel."

Asked if American Catholics should vote for someone with Trump's views, Francis said:

"I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt," he said.

On his last day in Mexico, Francis said a Mass on the U.S. border, where he railed against immigration policies that force many underground and into the hands of drug gangs and human smugglers.

Trump has also said he would deport millions of illegal migrants if he wins the November U.S. election. Last week he told Fox Business television that Pope Francis did not understand the Mexican border issues.

"The pope is a very political person. I think he doesn't understand the problems our country has. I don't think he understands the danger of the open border that we have with Mexico," he said.

Asked about being called a "political person", Francis said: "Thank God he said I was a politician because Aristotle defined the human person as 'animal politicus'. So at least I am a human person."

Trump has taken a more than 20-point lead over U.S. Senator Ted Cruz in the Republican race for the presidential nomination, with his campaign seeming to thrive off the endless controversies that he has generated.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 7:21 pm
by McParadigm
I have it from Donald Trump that he is the most Christian of any person ever, including Jesus.

He's also more human than human.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 7:22 pm
by Jorge
Trump vs. Bergoglio. I don't know who's the bigger phony.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 7:28 pm
by darth_vedder
theplatypus wrote:Trump vs. Bergoglio. I don't know who's the bigger phony.
I think you have explained before, but I forget... Why don't you like the Pope again? I mean, I get it with Trump, but the Pope seems like a pretty well liked guy for the most part.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 7:42 pm
by Mine
theplatypus wrote:Trump vs. Bergoglio. I don't know who's the bigger phony.
Which is exactly why i found their feud so amusing.