Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri January 18, 2019 1:24 pm
He hasn’t tweeted in 10 hours
Of all of his potential opening salvos today, I did not anticipate blatant, unadulterated Islamaphobia:McParadigm wrote:He hasn’t tweeted in 10 hours
Stark difference from the usual “fake news/all lies/never happened.”Simple Torture wrote:Of all of his potential opening salvos today, I did not anticipate blatant, unadulterated Islamophobia
I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?run2death wrote:Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.
But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?
I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.
digster wrote:Oof.
There is no way that's a real name.McParadigm wrote:Hogan Gidley was on Fox News just now and refused to flatly deny the claims, even when the Fox News host pointed out that his zig zagging was not in any way a denial.
They did largely vote for Trump, but from what I've read, most of them would rather see better roads, a few more agents and better technology than a better/bigger wall.E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?run2death wrote:Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.
But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?
I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.
Well then maybe they shouldn't have voted for the guy whose campaign slogan was "Build that wall!" Sending them my thoughts and prayers.run2death wrote:They did largely vote for Trump, but from what I've read, most of them would rather see better roads, a few more agents and better technology than a better/bigger wall.E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?run2death wrote:Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.
But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?
I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.
Simple Torture wrote:How disappointed will Pearl Jam be if the Trump presidency ends (resignation/impeachment/choking on a Filet O Fish) before they can release their angry Trump record?
Shit like this is why I will never understand the undecideds. They're so fickle and dumb.meatwad wrote:Well then maybe they shouldn't have voted for the guy whose campaign slogan was "Build that wall!" Sending them my thoughts and prayers.run2death wrote:They did largely vote for Trump, but from what I've read, most of them would rather see better roads, a few more agents and better technology than a better/bigger wall.E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?run2death wrote:Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.
But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?
I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.

That was the intention through Bush W and Obama. There’s a couple of great podcasts from Radiolab about this exact plan of deterrence. I’m on my phone but I’ll try to find the links.E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?run2death wrote:Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.
But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?
I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.