Red Mosquito

Mecca wrote:

doone wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

doone wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:So when is Jon going to run into someone that knows Robb legitimized him and named him heir?

did this happen?

cutuphalfdead wrote:In the show, that is.

which episode?

I guess it didn't.

did it happen in the books, maybe? or was this just wishful thinking?

Yeah. They're camped at Oldstones I believe just before the red wedding. They're planning on taking back moat callin

Brett wrote:A Storm of Swords, the fifth Catelyn chapter, according to the wiki: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/A_ ... Chapter_45

“People are talking about whether the books are going to be spoiled – and it’s really not true,” Benioff said. “So much of what we’re doing diverges from the books at this point. And while there are certain key elements that will be the same, we’re not going to talk so much about that – and I don’t think George is either. People are going to be very surprised when they read the books after the show. They’re quite divergent in so many respects for the remainder of the show.”

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Are there more notes available on the internet?

The article doesn't mention any. I know that Stephen King donated a lot of working manuscripts to a university somewhere, and you have to visit the library to see them -- no digital access is allowed. I would only assume this is similar.

Monkey_Driven wrote:Really happy to see Benjen.

doone wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Really happy to see Benjen.

Are you? I wasn't. But I understand the need for him to be Coldhands in the show. Bran needs a mentor/protector and they didn't want to introduce a new character.
I hope in the books Benjen and ColdHands remain separate.

doone wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Really happy to see Benjen.

Are you? I wasn't. But I understand the need for him to be Coldhands in the show. Bran needs a mentor/protector and they didn't want to introduce a new character.
I hope in the books Benjen and ColdHands remain separate.

Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it. For all the characters that go and then come back, and for everything that is more than what it seems, it's nice to have some things that are what they seem. Benjen went north of the wall during a time when it was more perilous to do so than it had been before. He wasn't the only ranger to do so, and he wasn't the only ranger to lose his life because of it.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

doone wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Really happy to see Benjen.

Are you? I wasn't. But I understand the need for him to be Coldhands in the show. Bran needs a mentor/protector and they didn't want to introduce a new character.
I hope in the books Benjen and ColdHands remain separate.

Same.

Last week I posted:

Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it. For all the characters that go and then come back, and for everything that is more than what it seems, it's nice to have some things that are what they seem. Benjen went north of the wall during a time when it was more perilous to do so than it had been before. He wasn't the only ranger to do so, and he wasn't the only ranger to lose his life because of it.

The Starks might have connections to magic, but that doesn't make them immortal. And the fact that a Stark, a First Ranger of the Night's Watch, can succumb to the others like any other man really says something about the thread looming over men.

Zantac Junkie wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

doone wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Really happy to see Benjen.

Are you? I wasn't. But I understand the need for him to be Coldhands in the show. Bran needs a mentor/protector and they didn't want to introduce a new character.
I hope in the books Benjen and ColdHands remain separate.

Same.

Last week I posted:

Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it. For all the characters that go and then come back, and for everything that is more than what it seems, it's nice to have some things that are what they seem. Benjen went north of the wall during a time when it was more perilous to do so than it had been before. He wasn't the only ranger to do so, and he wasn't the only ranger to lose his life because of it.

The Starks might have connections to magic, but that doesn't make them immortal. And the fact that a Stark, a First Ranger of the Night's Watch, can succumb to the others like any other man really says something about the thread looming over men.

Book Benjen is a MacGuffin, I think. But I'm totally fine with them making him Coldhands on the show.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

doone wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Really happy to see Benjen.

Are you? I wasn't. But I understand the need for him to be Coldhands in the show. Bran needs a mentor/protector and they didn't want to introduce a new character.
I hope in the books Benjen and ColdHands remain separate.

Same.

Last week I posted:

Honestly, in the books I don't think we're ever getting Benjen back, and I think that's how I want it. For all the characters that go and then come back, and for everything that is more than what it seems, it's nice to have some things that are what they seem. Benjen went north of the wall during a time when it was more perilous to do so than it had been before. He wasn't the only ranger to do so, and he wasn't the only ranger to lose his life because of it.

The Starks might have connections to magic, but that doesn't make them immortal. And the fact that a Stark, a First Ranger of the Night's Watch, can succumb to the others like any other man really says something about the thread looming over men.

Book Benjen is a MacGuffin, I think. But I'm totally fine with them making him Coldhands on the show.

Benjen Stark really had two purposes in this story: To provide mystery/heighten the threat, and to get Jon to the Wall.

The show can do whatever they want, it's not like it's very good at this point.