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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:56 pm
by Strat
epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?
I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.
Go to scotland and wear a kilt!
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:56 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
again, my PMs are open; there are hundreds of possible words out there, it's a minefield (if "man comfortable with his femininity" feels somehow not enough)
Thank you, again, for this. There is a very real chance I'll reach out to you soon. It's something I've wanted to have an honest, good faith conversation about. Thank you.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:57 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?
I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.
Go to scotland and wear a kilt!
It goes beyond kilts, though.
Like, I saw this photo of Oscar Isaac and I almost wept with happiness:
- Spoiler: show

Or any photo of Billy Porter, really

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:58 pm
by BurtReynolds
This is all will to power. None of you are free from it. You have not escaped from Nietzsche.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:58 pm
by bodysnatcher
I think a dry fart that happens 20 minutes after eating is fresher than a wet fart that happens 32 minutes after eating.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:59 pm
by wease
epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?
I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.
I’ve worn a skirt before. It was one of those lower body-hugging pieces that went to my feet. Very constricting. I would’ve much preferred a loose, free flowing number.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:59 pm
by epilogue
God bless the bodysnatcher account.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 7:59 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?
I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.
I’ve worn a skirt before. It was one of those lower body-hugging pieces that went to my feet. Very constricting. I would’ve much preferred a loose, free flowing number.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:00 pm
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?
I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.
I love you
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:01 pm
by Ms Harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:This is all will to power. None of you are free from it. You have not escaped.
it's part of what Nietzsche meant by it, yes
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:02 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:in trans speak: if you're a "guy" who "wants to be" a girl, are you a girl? yeah, why not? unless you decide you're not
if you're a "guy" who thinks being a guy is kind of shit actually, are you nonbinary? yeah, if you want; it's a valid nonbinary narrative
No offense intended, I promise you. I know this is a fully loaded, triggering topic, and I have nothing against trans or any sexual orientation, you have my full support in how you live your life. But what is wrong with stopping at "guy who identifies as girl"? Why is that taboo?
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:03 pm
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:Strat wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.
Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?
I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.
Go to scotland and wear a kilt!
It goes beyond kilts, though.
Like, I saw this photo of Oscar Isaac and I almost wept with happiness:
- Spoiler: show

Or any photo of Billy Porter, really

he looks fucking amazing
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:05 pm
by Ms Harmless
I own two dresses; I was harassed on the bus while wearing one of them, so I hardly wear them now; jeans or jeggings are my default, but I wish I felt freer
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:06 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:I own two dresses; I was harassed on the bus while wearing one of them, so I hardly wear them now; jeans or jeggings are my default, but I wish I felt freer
I love you.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:08 pm
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I own two dresses; I was harassed on the bus while wearing one of them, so I hardly wear them now; jeans or jeggings are my default, but I wish I felt freer
I love you.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:08 pm
by BurtReynolds
Ms Harmless wrote:I own two dresses; I was harassed on the bus while wearing one of them, so I hardly wear them now; jeans or jeggings are my default, but I wish I felt freer
Don't we all.
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:16 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:in trans speak: if you're a "guy" who "wants to be" a girl, are you a girl? yeah, why not? unless you decide you're not
if you're a "guy" who thinks being a guy is kind of shit actually, are you nonbinary? yeah, if you want; it's a valid nonbinary narrative
No offense intended, I promise you. I know this is a fully loaded, triggering topic, and I have nothing against trans or any sexual orientation, you have my full support in how you live your life. But what is wrong with stopping at "guy who identifies as girl"? Why is that taboo?
there are people who do, as well as bi-gender people, who are both guy and girl; but it's bad practice, and dangerous, to use that language for others without their consent; a person's gender is what they say it is, that's all we need to know
and a whole other discussion around how cis people get to just *be* a guy or a girl, while trans people are lumped with "identifies as" language; it's othering
it took me years to have the courage to say "I am a woman" to anybody; I spent a while before saying I "identified as" because it felt safer for me and less controversial to other people
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I own two dresses; I was harassed on the bus while wearing one of them, so I hardly wear them now; jeans or jeggings are my default, but I wish I felt freer
Don't we all.
a lot of us yes
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:18 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:tree_ wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:in trans speak: if you're a "guy" who "wants to be" a girl, are you a girl? yeah, why not? unless you decide you're not
if you're a "guy" who thinks being a guy is kind of shit actually, are you nonbinary? yeah, if you want; it's a valid nonbinary narrative
No offense intended, I promise you. I know this is a fully loaded, triggering topic, and I have nothing against trans or any sexual orientation, you have my full support in how you live your life. But what is wrong with stopping at "guy who identifies as girl"? Why is that taboo?
there are people who do, as well as bi-gender people, who are both guy and girl; but it's bad practice, and dangerous, to use that language for others without their consent; a person's gender is what they say it is, that's all we need to know
and a whole other discussion around how cis people get to just *be* a guy or a girl, while trans people are lumped with "identifies as" language; it's othering
it took me years to have the courage to say "I am a woman" to anybody; I spent a while before saying I "identified as" because it felt safer for me and less controversial to other people
Again, you have my full support, but I just get hung up on language and definitions
Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
Posted: Wed March 30, 2022 8:19 pm
by The Argonaut
We know, tree. This thread is basically 74 pages of you reading the dictionary to us