Israel & Palestine

[dimejinky99]

We don’t get to see that side of the argument much. The side that pushes all this for their own ends and aims. Not in such cold terms from their own mouths anyways.

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[BurtReynolds]

"if I don't steal it, someone else will steal it."

I'm gonna try that one and see how it goes when I grab a PlayStation from Walmart today.

[Anders]

Didn’t the US steal a lot of land?

[BurtReynolds]

I prefer "conquered" or "settled" (I don't know a country in existence today that didn't come into existence that way), I just think people should be honest about it and stop trying to justify or moralize it.

[tommy]

Let's not forget all of the raping and pillaging your people subjected mine to, Anders!

[Anders]

While part of the viking representation in culture is a historical misrepresentation, and it is also likely we both have ancestors from those vikings, by todays standards, the vikings did do some awful things.

However, I am probably more guilty from my German side. My great grandfather moved to Norway in 1890 (so no Nazis in the family, but I do have a great uncle that fought for the resistance, and my grandmother hid him). His direct ancestors (father, fathers father, etc.) were all colonels or generals for Prussia.

[BurtReynolds]

Guilt? Vikings don't have guilt! They've taken the animal out of you! You were made to pillage!

[Anders]

For all I know, you may have as many vikings in your ancestry, as I have.

[BurtReynolds]

Heh, I thought this was staged when I first saw it, but apparently not.

[dimejinky99]

I prefer "conquered" or "settled" (I don't know a country in existence today that didn't come into existence that way), I just think people should be honest about it and stop trying to justify or moralize it.

You surely cannot be this ignorant

[dimejinky99]

For all I know, you may have as many vikings in your ancestry, as I have.

I’m from dublin. Founded by vikings. Well there was a town but they came and took over and ‘became more Irish than The Irish themselves’.

My granny’s family could trace her family all the way back to them. She was a ‘Dane’.
That was the byword for the invaders.

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[blueviper]

Heh, I thought this was staged when I first saw it, but apparently not.

Reminds me of the lady at a McDonald's complaining about the blue and white wrappers used for certain sandwiches been a sign of supporting Israel.

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