LoathedVermin72 wrote:My big takeaway is that Johnny Walker is the most exciting guy in the sport right now.
I'd like to see Johnny Walker in a longer fight before I'm willing to make that call. I thought Pedro Munhoz was pretty great too, and I was stocked to see Woodly lose his title
Understandable, but I didn't say he's the best in the sport - just the most exciting. The fact that we haven't seen him in a longer fight yet only adds to that for me, because I want to know what he's capable of. But his infectious charisma plus the fact that he so effortlessly and spectacularly laid out his last two opponents almost immediately is pretty exhilarating.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Sun March 03, 2019 9:10 pm
by numbers
washing machine wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:So not only did Smith survive all five rounds, but Jones also threw an illegal knee?
Pretty hard to feel excited about Jones at this point.
So I'm new to this sport. Showing these fights all the time at my bar has made me not quite a fan, but certainly a casual follower.
I respected Smith for going all five rounds, but I have a big question after that knee incident. Is there anyone in the MMA world that would have actually taken the DQ way out in a fight like that? I assume stealing a win of that magnitude would have all but blackballed Smith or anyone else from the game.
The man he was fighting would have taken it.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Sun March 03, 2019 9:15 pm
by washing machine
numbers wrote:
washing machine wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:So not only did Smith survive all five rounds, but Jones also threw an illegal knee?
Pretty hard to feel excited about Jones at this point.
So I'm new to this sport. Showing these fights all the time at my bar has made me not quite a fan, but certainly a casual follower.
I respected Smith for going all five rounds, but I have a big question after that knee incident. Is there anyone in the MMA world that would have actually taken the DQ way out in a fight like that? I assume stealing a win of that magnitude would have all but blackballed Smith or anyone else from the game.
The man he was fighting would have taken it.
Nobody seems to like this Jones character.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Sun March 03, 2019 9:55 pm
by LoathedVermin72
washing machine wrote:
numbers wrote:
washing machine wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:So not only did Smith survive all five rounds, but Jones also threw an illegal knee?
Pretty hard to feel excited about Jones at this point.
So I'm new to this sport. Showing these fights all the time at my bar has made me not quite a fan, but certainly a casual follower.
I respected Smith for going all five rounds, but I have a big question after that knee incident. Is there anyone in the MMA world that would have actually taken the DQ way out in a fight like that? I assume stealing a win of that magnitude would have all but blackballed Smith or anyone else from the game.
The man he was fighting would have taken it.
Nobody seems to like this Jones character.
He got busted for doping repeatedly and he crashed his car into a pregnant woman before fleeing the scene (he did go back to get his drugs first). Pretty hard dude to like.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Sun March 03, 2019 10:26 pm
by washing machine
Oh
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 12:12 am
by numbers
Not to mention he has pissed hot for his last two fights and is just getting free passes now.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 12:17 am
by LoathedVermin72
numbers wrote:Not to mention he has pissed hot for his last two fights and is just getting free passes now.
I’ve heard some pretty convincing arguments that these are false positives, though. The stringency of testing is absurd.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 12:24 am
by numbers
If anyone doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt, it’s Jones. Plus, doesn’t seem like they are extending these lifetime free passes to anyone else.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 3:36 pm
by Ello Sailor
I was an Askern fan leading up to this fight. The dad bod, the poorly fitted dress pants and flip flops combo... dude just doesn't give a fuck -- I dig it. But disrespecting the patron saint of violence, Robbie Lawler, by taunting Dana with "is that all you've got for me?!" after winning off of a questionable reffing decision... what a douche. Fuck Askern.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 3:38 pm
by Ello Sailor
washing machine wrote:Is there anyone in the MMA world that would have actually taken the DQ way out in a fight like that?
Josh Koscheck absolutely would have. Anyone remember that guy? Haven't seen him since Woodley starched him.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 8:36 pm
by Stickman
He really should appeal.
Nevermind, he's gettin a rematch. Jump to 4:00
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 8:43 pm
by Rangi Guy
Stickman wrote:He really should appeal.
He's too much of a good cunt for that though
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Mon March 04, 2019 8:44 pm
by Stickman
Rangi Guy wrote:
Stickman wrote:He really should appeal.
He's too much of a good cunt for that though
Doesn't have to now. Edited my post.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Tue March 05, 2019 1:56 am
by run2death
I don't know, Dana seems pretty disingenuous there.
Myself, the announcers and the ref ALL thought he had been choked out. I realize NOW it was a bad call, but that's easy to see in hindsight.
Dana is obviously delighting in the fact that he's basically forcing Askren to rematch a fight he didn't really want in the first place.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Tue March 05, 2019 2:02 am
by numbers
Well, if Dana said it, it’s definitely happening.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Tue March 05, 2019 2:06 am
by run2death
I think the UFC is too big and the athletes are too good now for Dana to continue to be the sole arbiter.
Re: The Official MMA Thread
Posted: Tue March 05, 2019 10:59 am
by Ello Sailor
So after watching this explanation by a pair of Gracies, I have changed my tune. It looks like Lawler would have been out in the next 3 to 5 seconds regardless. After all, you can be choked out (and painfully so, apparently) even if it isn't under the chin.
