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Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 12:15 am
by Bammer
86,948 posts don’t lie

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 12:15 am
by Bammer
F^#%*

Sorry snatch.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:26 am
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.
Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:29 am
by epilogue
digster wrote: Not that I really put any stock in that critique, whether in the case of Beck volleying between genres or St. Vincent's overt theatrically. Personally, none of those things really give any indication whether something is or is not authentic, though that's probably a different conversation entirely.
What a great post.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:30 am
by epilogue
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:"Mutations" is a fantastic album and anybody on the fence about Beck should check it out.

His best by far.

He tapped into something genuine and rare with that one.

Maybe because it was recorded live over a two week period?

He seems to think it was a tossed off contract filler. What a crock.
Mutations is easily my second favorite Beck record and one of only three that I revisit with any regularity.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:31 am
by epilogue
Kevin Davis wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:"Mutations" is a fantastic album and anybody on the fence about Beck should check it out.

His best by far.

He tapped into something genuine and rare with that one.
100% agree -- an absolutely beautiful album, full of immaculately composed melodies and an instrumental palate that is eclectic but natural. One of my favorite albums of the '90's.
Also, if you're a fan of Stephen King's The Dark Tower, this record has a lot to offer.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:49 am
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote: Go back to bed Burt, you're delirious.
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Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 2:47 am
by liebzz
epilogue wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:"Mutations" is a fantastic album and anybody on the fence about Beck should check it out.

His best by far.

He tapped into something genuine and rare with that one.
100% agree -- an absolutely beautiful album, full of immaculately composed melodies and an instrumental palate that is eclectic but natural. One of my favorite albums of the '90's.
Also, if you're a fan of Stephen King's The Dark Tower, this record has a lot to offer.
I never made that connection. Expound please.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 2:49 am
by verb_to_trust
Bringing Down The Horse is one of the best albums of the 90s

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 2:58 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:Bringing Down The Horse is one of the best albums of the 90s
now 6th avenue heartache is stuck in my head

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 3:01 am
by verb_to_trust
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Bringing Down The Horse is one of the best albums of the 90s
now 6th avenue heartache is stuck in my head
Don't forget about Three Marlenas

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 3:06 am
by verb_to_trust
Breach was a good album too. Hand Me Down and Murder 101. Bangers.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 3:13 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
verb_to_trust wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Bringing Down The Horse is one of the best albums of the 90s
now 6th avenue heartache is stuck in my head
Don't forget about Three Marlenas
i don't think i'd like that one as much today

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 3:27 am
by Mickey
epilogue wrote:
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.
Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.
I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 4:26 am
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.
Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.
I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.
That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes. :thumbsup:

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 4:57 am
by bodysnatcher
Bammer wrote:F^#%*

Sorry snatch.
It’s ok I don’t mind being the bottom

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:21 pm
by Jorge
epilogue wrote:
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.
Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.
I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.
That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes. :thumbsup:
I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunes

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:25 pm
by JuanHamm
Jorge wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.
Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.
I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.
That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes. :thumbsup:
I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunes
Please give examples

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 1:33 pm
by oasisfan35
verb_to_trust wrote:Bringing Down The Horse is one of the best albums of the 90s
I listened to that album a ridiculous number of times back in the day. I always thought the track sequence, quieter tune followed by a more upbeat one and repeat, always worked well.
verb_to_trust wrote:Breach was a good album too. Hand Me Down and Murder 101. Bangers.
Listened to Rebel, Sweetheart the other day and while I don't enjoy it as much as Red Letter Days it's not a poor effort. Don't think I ever gave Glad All Over much of a listen come to think of it.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 2:13 pm
by spike
frank black solo is on par with pixies. love it all.