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Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 2:59 pm
by Jorge
Johnny Firecloud wrote:fun-punk run
Spritz!

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:01 pm
by dad
Monkey_Driven wrote:"Guitarist Stone Gossard wrote the words and music to the odd-bird delight of “Buckle Up,” a warmly brisk fingerpicking guitar-driven curveball under Cameron’s 4/4 march. Vedder’s long melodic exhalations shape the morose young existence of… a… murderer? It’s an enchantingly unique track, among Pearl Jam’s more perplexing offerings since “Strangest Tribe” mesmerized fans at Christmastime in 1999."

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yeah, forgot about Strangest Tribe. It's dope.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:02 pm
by tree_
Monkey_Driven wrote:"Guitarist Stone Gossard wrote the words and music to the odd-bird delight of “Buckle Up,” a warmly brisk fingerpicking guitar-driven curveball under Cameron’s 4/4 march. Vedder’s long melodic exhalations shape the morose young existence of… a… murderer? It’s an enchantingly unique track, among Pearl Jam’s more perplexing offerings since “Strangest Tribe” mesmerized fans at Christmastime in 1999."

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Wow a Cameron 4/4 march? Who'd have thought?

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:15 pm
by Tim
Johnny Firecloud wrote:Gone is the dad-punk hamminess of recent records, replaced by richness in depth and experimentation, layered intricacies with reward for the attentive headphone listeners.
:luv:

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:17 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:"Guitarist Stone Gossard wrote the words and music to the odd-bird delight of “Buckle Up,” a warmly brisk fingerpicking guitar-driven curveball under Cameron’s 4/4 march. Vedder’s long melodic exhalations shape the morose young existence of… a… murderer? It’s an enchantingly unique track, among Pearl Jam’s more perplexing offerings since “Strangest Tribe” mesmerized fans at Christmastime in 1999."

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Wow a Cameron 4/4 march? Who'd have thought?
Strangest Tribe is a top tier PJ song.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:20 pm
by Anders
Monkey_Driven wrote:"Guitarist Stone Gossard wrote the words and music to the odd-bird delight of “Buckle Up,” a warmly brisk fingerpicking guitar-driven curveball under Cameron’s 4/4 march. Vedder’s long melodic exhalations shape the morose young existence of… a… murderer? It’s an enchantingly unique track, among Pearl Jam’s more perplexing offerings since “Strangest Tribe” mesmerized fans at Christmastime in 1999."

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That sounds intriguing.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:24 pm
by Johnny Turner
I was expecting Buckle Up to sound kind like Parachutes. Now is compared to Strangest Tribe. Love both songs and propably will be disappointed.

Better to just adjust expectation to a low level, maybe it will sound like Thin Air.... But hey thats a good song too

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:29 pm
by Johnny Turner
No comments about Retrograde in that Review (beside BoB keys), right?

It was not the greatest writing, but I enjoyed his excitement.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:37 pm
by stip
it was a thorough, thoughtful review, and the excitement was palpable

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:40 pm
by EJ
Johnny Turner wrote:
Better to just adjust expectation to a low level, maybe it will sound like Thin Air.... But hey thats a good song too
eh hem, a great song

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:44 pm
by EJ
dad wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:"Guitarist Stone Gossard wrote the words and music to the odd-bird delight of “Buckle Up,” a warmly brisk fingerpicking guitar-driven curveball under Cameron’s 4/4 march. Vedder’s long melodic exhalations shape the morose young existence of… a… murderer? It’s an enchantingly unique track, among Pearl Jam’s more perplexing offerings since “Strangest Tribe” mesmerized fans at Christmastime in 1999."

His enthusiasm is great. But, I will be absolutely shocked if this comes close to something as interesting as Parachutes or Strangest Tribe.

Please let me be shocked.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:45 pm
by oneway23
"For a great many fans, Pearl Jam creations are heartsongs, sonic barometers we often measure and balance the storms of our own lives against. Thankfully, we now have a beautiful new chapter to see us through."
That's what's up :heartbeat:

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:52 pm
by Strat
I'm not sure its good or bad that long time pearl jam fans are reviewing the album. Would it be better if pitchfork spoke favorable of Gigaton?

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:55 pm
by dad
Strat wrote:I'm not sure its good or bad that long time pearl jam fans are reviewing the album. Would it be better if pitchfork spoke favorable of Gigaton?
nah. at best, p4k gives the album about a 5, which is what they've done with the last two.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:56 pm
by mikejasond
Vindicator wrote:
mikejasond wrote:
Anders wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Seems like Ed was pretty prolific this time around, writing Who Ever Said, SBWM, Never Destination, Comes Then Goes and River Cross.

Ed wrote 5 out of the 12 songs.

Jeff wrote 2.

Stone 1.

Matt 1

Mike 1.

DOTC was a full band effort and Seven O Clock I'm not sure who gets the credit there, only that it originated from a jam session.
Imagine being Stone Gossard, one of the best songwriters in the world, and you get 1-2 songs on each album, every 5 or so years, and that includes a couple of the weaker songs on the past two records. Amazing.
He WAS one of the best songwriters in the world, until 1995.
Uhhh...he wrote Do The Evolution ? In Hiding? Hail Hail?
While those songs are good, I don't think they are all that impressively written. In Hiding is good because of Eddie's vocals, Hail Hail is mostly good because of Jack Irons, and DTE is overall good but the songwriting is really not that impressive.

I do really like Thin Air but none of these songs compare to Daughter or Even Flow.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:56 pm
by Jaeti
Strat wrote:I'm not sure its good or bad that long time pearl jam fans are reviewing the album. Would it be better if pitchfork spoke favorable of Gigaton?
I feel like we're at least getting reviews from longtime fans who are as prepared as many of us are to be let down. They maybe be overrating it a bit (or a lot), but I'm getting a sense that most of them have been genuinely surprised by how solid it is, having gone in expecting much less.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:57 pm
by BenHoward
Strat wrote:I'm not sure its good or bad that long time pearl jam fans are reviewing the album. Would it be better if pitchfork spoke favorable of Gigaton?
i always think about that when i read reviews for albums i'm anticipating. My conclusion is that i'd rather hear the ringing endorsement of a super fan (acknowledging that particularly after only a few spins that view may be improperly reflective of the simple joy of listening to new music from one of your favorite fans) than a staff writer at rollingstone, or pitchfork who has no particular affinity for PJ, or worse, someone who really likes music i don't.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:58 pm
by Lounge Lizard
I'm going to take it with a grain of salt. The memories of people saying Backspacer was their best since Yield are still too vivid in my mind.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 3:58 pm
by Strat
mikejasond wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
mikejasond wrote:
Anders wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Seems like Ed was pretty prolific this time around, writing Who Ever Said, SBWM, Never Destination, Comes Then Goes and River Cross.

Ed wrote 5 out of the 12 songs.

Jeff wrote 2.

Stone 1.

Matt 1

Mike 1.

DOTC was a full band effort and Seven O Clock I'm not sure who gets the credit there, only that it originated from a jam session.
Imagine being Stone Gossard, one of the best songwriters in the world, and you get 1-2 songs on each album, every 5 or so years, and that includes a couple of the weaker songs on the past two records. Amazing.
He WAS one of the best songwriters in the world, until 1995.
Uhhh...he wrote Do The Evolution ? In Hiding? Hail Hail?
While those songs are good, I don't think they are all that impressively written. In Hiding is good because of Eddie's vocals, Hail Hail is mostly good because of Jack Irons, and DTE is overall good but the songwriting is really not that impressive.

I do really like Thin Air but none of these songs compare to Daughter or Even Flow.

In Hiding is quite fantastically written for a guitar piece.

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread

Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 4:00 pm
by Jorge
"In Hiding" is a beautiful composition. I think it is one of PJ's most satisfying and well-written songs from an instrumental perspective