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Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 12:51 pm
by Mike
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:I like the fact that there's very little adornment in that intro other than the guitar and voice. I definitely like that Matt isn't bashing the hats and bassdrum like he was at Wrigley. All of that sounds very Yield, a subtle start from which to build the song gradually into an epic. The problem is, Ed's voice doesn't sound like Yield anymore. It's not subtle and mumbly enough, it's too overly dramatic to give much sensitivity to a soft intro. It announces itself too brashly, like an old drunk.
I wouldn't mind a small intro like that if it were produced differently and Eddie was singing a little differently. It sounds like a creepy demo that Ed made in a bedroom and then the song was tacked onto that. Yield-Ed would definitely help. Doesn't help that it comes directly after Sirens which sounds so full.
Yeah, Sirens is in the wrooooong plaaaaaace which won't help when I play it to my wife and try to convince her it's a good song. The way it comes after MFS, it's like a slapstick comedian slipping up on a banana skin.
I love describing things in metaphors about the new album.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 12:54 pm
by harmless
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:I like the fact that there's very little adornment in that intro other than the guitar and voice. I definitely like that Matt isn't bashing the hats and bassdrum like he was at Wrigley. All of that sounds very Yield, a subtle start from which to build the song gradually into an epic. The problem is, Ed's voice doesn't sound like Yield anymore. It's not subtle and mumbly enough, it's too overly dramatic to give much sensitivity to a soft intro. It announces itself too brashly, like an old drunk.
I wouldn't mind a small intro like that if it were produced differently and Eddie was singing a little differently. It sounds like a creepy demo that Ed made in a bedroom and then the song was tacked onto that. Yield-Ed would definitely help. Doesn't help that it comes directly after Sirens which sounds so full.
Yeah, Sirens is in the wrooooong plaaaaaace which won't help when I play it to my wife and try to convince her it's a good song. The way it comes after MFS, it's like a slapstick comedian slipping up on a banana skin.
I love describing things in metaphors about the new album.
It's the new Black! Ed is still inspiring me after all these years.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 12:56 pm
by Mike
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:I like the fact that there's very little adornment in that intro other than the guitar and voice. I definitely like that Matt isn't bashing the hats and bassdrum like he was at Wrigley. All of that sounds very Yield, a subtle start from which to build the song gradually into an epic. The problem is, Ed's voice doesn't sound like Yield anymore. It's not subtle and mumbly enough, it's too overly dramatic to give much sensitivity to a soft intro. It announces itself too brashly, like an old drunk.
I wouldn't mind a small intro like that if it were produced differently and Eddie was singing a little differently. It sounds like a creepy demo that Ed made in a bedroom and then the song was tacked onto that. Yield-Ed would definitely help. Doesn't help that it comes directly after Sirens which sounds so full.
Yeah, Sirens is in the wrooooong plaaaaaace which won't help when I play it to my wife and try to convince her it's a good song. The way it comes after MFS, it's like a slapstick comedian slipping up on a banana skin.
I love describing things in metaphors about the new album.

It's the new Black! Ed is still inspiring me after all these years.
Were wild seeds of inspiration sown into you in your sleep?

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 12:59 pm
by harmless
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:I like the fact that there's very little adornment in that intro other than the guitar and voice. I definitely like that Matt isn't bashing the hats and bassdrum like he was at Wrigley. All of that sounds very Yield, a subtle start from which to build the song gradually into an epic. The problem is, Ed's voice doesn't sound like Yield anymore. It's not subtle and mumbly enough, it's too overly dramatic to give much sensitivity to a soft intro. It announces itself too brashly, like an old drunk.
I wouldn't mind a small intro like that if it were produced differently and Eddie was singing a little differently. It sounds like a creepy demo that Ed made in a bedroom and then the song was tacked onto that. Yield-Ed would definitely help. Doesn't help that it comes directly after Sirens which sounds so full.
Yeah, Sirens is in the wrooooong plaaaaaace which won't help when I play it to my wife and try to convince her it's a good song. The way it comes after MFS, it's like a slapstick comedian slipping up on a banana skin.
I love describing things in metaphors about the new album.

It's the new Black! Ed is still inspiring me after all these years.
Were wild seeds of inspiration sown into you in your sleep?
And for that I'm supposed to be glad!

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:02 pm
by flannelking
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:I like the fact that there's very little adornment in that intro other than the guitar and voice. I definitely like that Matt isn't bashing the hats and bassdrum like he was at Wrigley. All of that sounds very Yield, a subtle start from which to build the song gradually into an epic. The problem is, Ed's voice doesn't sound like Yield anymore. It's not subtle and mumbly enough, it's too overly dramatic to give much sensitivity to a soft intro. It announces itself too brashly, like an old drunk.
I wouldn't mind a small intro like that if it were produced differently and Eddie was singing a little differently. It sounds like a creepy demo that Ed made in a bedroom and then the song was tacked onto that. Yield-Ed would definitely help. Doesn't help that it comes directly after Sirens which sounds so full.
Yeah, Sirens is in the wrooooong plaaaaaace which won't help when I play it to my wife and try to convince her it's a good song. The way it comes after MFS, it's like a slapstick comedian slipping up on a banana skin.
:haha: . Hail Hail seems to work coming after Sometimes but that's a different scenario, I guess. My gf had never heard of Pearl Jam until I sent her the Siren's video. She said she liked it a lot and sang it while walking that day. Then she asked, is "jam pearl" your favorite band? haha! I thought it was cute. I'm considering which song I'll send her next. She likes slow songs best and maybe some mid tempo songs also. Maybe I'll send Betterman. No jokes please! I already explained the meaning behind the song to her.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:06 pm
by harmless
flannelking wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
harmless wrote:I like the fact that there's very little adornment in that intro other than the guitar and voice. I definitely like that Matt isn't bashing the hats and bassdrum like he was at Wrigley. All of that sounds very Yield, a subtle start from which to build the song gradually into an epic. The problem is, Ed's voice doesn't sound like Yield anymore. It's not subtle and mumbly enough, it's too overly dramatic to give much sensitivity to a soft intro. It announces itself too brashly, like an old drunk.
I wouldn't mind a small intro like that if it were produced differently and Eddie was singing a little differently. It sounds like a creepy demo that Ed made in a bedroom and then the song was tacked onto that. Yield-Ed would definitely help. Doesn't help that it comes directly after Sirens which sounds so full.
Yeah, Sirens is in the wrooooong plaaaaaace which won't help when I play it to my wife and try to convince her it's a good song. The way it comes after MFS, it's like a slapstick comedian slipping up on a banana skin.
:haha: . Hail Hail seems to work coming after Sometimes but that's a different scenario, I guess. My gf had never heard of Pearl Jam until I sent her the Siren's video. She said she liked it a lot and sang it while walking that day. Then she asked, is "jam pearl" your favorite band? haha! I thought it was cute. I'm considering which song I'll send her next. She likes slow songs best and maybe some mid tempo songs also. Maybe I'll send Betterman. No jokes please! I already explained the meaning behind the song to her.
Check the "PJ Mixtape for a newbie" thread. Looks like she has a similar taste.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:16 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
Pine tree wrote:Does Ed say something about a falling breast?..weird...
A five star song, if it wasn't for that horrible, garage band fade out.
"lovely breast"
"love in breast"
I was never convinced it was "love in..." but it might well be.
it might not, too. Phatj came up with that one, I think, and it's what I hear now. We'll know in a week, hopefully

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:16 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:Does the intro to this song have to sound so stupid? It's so thin and I feel like I'm walking somewhere at night when suddenly a creepy dude that was hiding in a bush starts singing this song to me in his creepy voice. Then the intro is over and I like everything else about the song.
"Whatever you replied, she took as... yeeeeeees."

If that's not reinforcing rape culture, nothing is.

i hope they get that girl from the blurred lines video for lightning bolt

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:17 pm
by stip
Heathen wrote:maybe's it's loving Brest, the French city
or brecht, the german playwrite

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:22 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:Does the intro to this song have to sound so stupid? It's so thin and I feel like I'm walking somewhere at night when suddenly a creepy dude that was hiding in a bush starts singing this song to me in his creepy voice. Then the intro is over and I like everything else about the song.
"Whatever you replied, she took as... yeeeeeees."

If that's not reinforcing rape culture, nothing is.

i hope they get that girl from the blurred lines video for lightning bolt
:nice:

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:25 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:Does the intro to this song have to sound so stupid? It's so thin and I feel like I'm walking somewhere at night when suddenly a creepy dude that was hiding in a bush starts singing this song to me in his creepy voice. Then the intro is over and I like everything else about the song.
"Whatever you replied, she took as... yeeeeeees."

If that's not reinforcing rape culture, nothing is.
Well it's about time SOMEbody did it.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:26 pm
by stip
rape culture isn't going to reinforce itself.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:33 pm
by Heathen
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:maybe's it's loving Brest, the French city
or brecht, the german playwrite
or brecht the RMer

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:36 pm
by stip
do you think they're the same person?

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:38 pm
by Heathen
it's a real possibility

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 1:43 pm
by EJ
This song has elevated by leaps and bounds for me since the first few listens. Really digging it now.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 3:03 pm
by flannelking
cool, thanks. that "PJ Mixtape for a newbie" thread. I'm pretty sure she'll like all things slow and/or soft. I'll just need to search through their albums and pick out the ones that have lyrics that are positive or at least not dark.

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 7:55 pm
by warehouse
harmless, id like you to know you've ruined the beginning of this song for me. i cant listen to it w/o thinking of that brian adams song. jerk.

i like this song way more in the context of the album. maybe b/c its after sirens?

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 8:58 pm
by PHATJ
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
Pine tree wrote:Does Ed say something about a falling breast?..weird...
A five star song, if it wasn't for that horrible, garage band fade out.
"lovely breast"
"love in breast"
I was never convinced it was "love in..." but it might well be.
it might not, too. Phatj came up with that one, I think, and it's what I hear now. We'll know in a week, hopefully
Yeah, I stand by that too, and then the next lyric is "as her birds fall from her nest" which I interprete as her basically holding her obsession close to her heart while the object of her obsession finally breaks free of her grasp and heads for greener pastures. Or some shit like that. :D

Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt

Posted: Wed October 09, 2013 9:00 pm
by harmless
warehouse wrote:harmless, id like you to know you've ruined the beginning of this song for me. i cant listen to it w/o thinking of that brian adams song. jerk.

i like this song way more in the context of the album. maybe b/c its after sirens?
:lol:

Yeah, I dunno... it's just the palm-muted intro. It's no big deal.