Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri June 30, 2023 5:46 am
Have seen some positive news about the offensive a few places, but overall, and especially according to war mapper, the progress seems to be very small.
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Re: Ukraine
Posted: Tue July 04, 2023 9:40 pm
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Tue July 04, 2023 9:42 pm
This guy, Kamil, is all over the "production deficit" topic.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Tue July 04, 2023 9:45 pm
every general worth a snot in history knew that widespread mining of your territory held reflects an expectation of long term success!
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Tue July 04, 2023 10:35 pm
elliseamos wrote:This guy, Kamil, is all over the "production deficit" topic.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 12:53 pm
uuuuhhhhh...........
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed July 05, 2023 5:30 pm
Dammit!
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 5:49 am
i think the fallout is only supposed to spread 30km though?
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 9:11 pm
For how many years?96583UP wrote:i think the fallout is only supposed to spread 30km though?
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu July 06, 2023 11:18 pm
The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri July 07, 2023 2:26 pm
My buddy sent this from Switzerland. Bezos is sending reinforcements.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri July 07, 2023 6:01 pm
simple schoolboy wrote:The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?
This does seem a bit problematic, but there are definitely those who believe we can defeat Russia via UKR without making BRICS into a military alliance.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri July 07, 2023 6:49 pm
I think the unexploded ordinance concerns are entirely overhyped. Every single affected field is already full of unexploded Soviet era ordinance that will need to be cleared. Adding a few of these to the mix doesn't really change the workload of clearing these areas.Bi_3 wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?
This does seem a bit problematic, but there are definitely those who believe we can defeat Russia via UKR without making BRICS into a military alliance.
I also suspect Ukrainian farmers would much rather drive over one of these in their tractor than a unitary 122 or 152mm shell.
I do think passing laws that say X action is prohibited unless the President thinks it's important is a dumb way to run things. Bring it to a vote, you cowardly Congress critters.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri July 07, 2023 9:49 pm
Cluster bombs. Pretty much every armed nation in earth is agreed not to use them.
And here we are.
War will end at some point and Ukrainians will be still getting killed by ordnance for decades to come.
Cambodia and Vietnam and Laos still riddled by thousands of similar unexploded bombs dropped by the US and deaths every year because of them.
This is the point global opinion turns against US involvement and supporting Ukraine.
An idiotic move employing cluster bombs
And here we are.
War will end at some point and Ukrainians will be still getting killed by ordnance for decades to come.
Cambodia and Vietnam and Laos still riddled by thousands of similar unexploded bombs dropped by the US and deaths every year because of them.
This is the point global opinion turns against US involvement and supporting Ukraine.
An idiotic move employing cluster bombs
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri July 07, 2023 11:48 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:Cluster bombs. Pretty much every armed nation on earthis agreed not to use themprepared to fight a peer still has them.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat July 08, 2023 6:55 am
i read an article a month or so back that basically said the US has a shitload of them, they were approaching their 'use-by' date or would expire; and given that Russia has been using them like mad, and Ukraine could benefit from them in the trenches, and the West / US has already provided a shitload of non-cluster munitions which has begun to strain our own stockpiles and supply chain, and Russia is not relenting in this war - that we might as well give them to Ukraine rather than depleting our remaining non-cluster stocks moresimple schoolboy wrote:The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?
ATACMS next ?
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat July 08, 2023 6:57 am
sounds like 'two track' negotiations with Russia are positioning the potential peace deal as creating a DMZ
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat July 08, 2023 3:09 pm
It seems to be consistent with their rhetoric (civilians in Donetsk shelled for 8 years).96583UP wrote:sounds like 'two track' negotiations with Russia are positioning the potential peace deal as creating a DMZ
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sun July 09, 2023 1:48 pm
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sun July 09, 2023 2:39 pm
If the Russians are using a lot of them in Ukraine, it’s insane for Ukraine not to have the same opportunity. Need F16s asap as well.
Get Russia out of Ukraine.
Get Russia out of Ukraine.