Red Mosquito

The Argonaut wrote:We know, tree. This thread is basically 74 pages of you reading the dictionary to us

Mickey wrote:What even are words, actually?

epilogue wrote:But I also get that's where tree is. It took me a long time to understand it. And I admit that it still can be frustrating. But I get it now, finally.

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:in trans speak: if you're a "guy" who "wants to be" a girl, are you a girl? yeah, why not? unless you decide you're not

if you're a "guy" who thinks being a guy is kind of shit actually, are you nonbinary? yeah, if you want; it's a valid nonbinary narrative

No offense intended, I promise you. I know this is a fully loaded, triggering topic, and I have nothing against trans or any sexual orientation, you have my full support in how you live your life. But what is wrong with stopping at "guy who identifies as girl"? Why is that taboo?

there are people who do, as well as bi-gender people, who are both guy and girl; but it's bad practice, and dangerous, to use that language for others without their consent; a person's gender is what they say it is, that's all we need to know

and a whole other discussion around how cis people get to just *be* a guy or a girl, while trans people are lumped with "identifies as" language; it's othering

it took me years to have the courage to say "I am a woman" to anybody; I spent a while before saying I "identified as" because it felt safer for me and less controversial to other people

Again, you have my full support, but I just get hung up on language and definitions

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.

Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?

I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.

Norris wrote:

epilogue wrote:

wease wrote:

epilogue wrote:As far as personal sexual identity goes, I identify as a straight male. But I also relate to and identify with women and the feminine. I've talked about this before. I am not a woman. But I am feminine. I have no idea if there is a word for that but it's where my ideology/identity rests. I used to use the word feminist but that somehow doesn't seem right either. I have no idea what the correct association/identifier is.

Does this mean you wear ladies’ undergarments?

I do not. However, I do want desperately to wear skirts and dresses and fully admit that the only reason I don't is societal BS.

i could hug you

tree_ wrote:I just want to know what words actually mean. Show me absolute definitions, and I will be satisfied.

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:I just want to know what words actually mean. Show me absolute definitions, and I will be satisfied.

is it possible you're autistic? if you don't want to answer that's fine; I know trans autistic people who "get" this stuff because they've lived it, but still have to engage with stuff in that way

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:I just want to know what words actually mean. Show me absolute definitions, and I will be satisfied.

is it possible you're autistic? if you don't want to answer that's fine; I know trans autistic people who "get" this stuff because they've lived it, but still have to engage with stuff in that way

No diagnosis. But I've often wondered if I were on the spectrum. I am very literal and struggle in social situations to you know.. vibe with people and stuff. If nothing else, I'm definitely the most introverted person I've ever known, which can look like autism. But I'm not sure wanting to know what a word means is an autistic quality.

Jorge wrote:This thread sucks now

Ms Harmless wrote:kind of like Pearl Jam amirite guys?

JuanHamm wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:kind of like Pearl Jam amirite guys?

Does this thread have a 'Gigaton' in it?