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Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 10:54 pm
by Vindicator
Inside Job has some fantastic melodies, intricate guitar finger picking, and I think the lyrics are awesome. Seeing it played live was amazing.
Versus SBWM, please.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 10:56 pm
by Ms Harmless
I don't think we should fight about all this, we're all entitled to our opinions
how we choose to feel is how we are
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:02 pm
by Vindicator
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think we should fight about all this, we're all entitled to our opinions
how we choose to feel is how we are
don't you dare quote inside job! you said DOTC AND SBWM were better!!
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:05 pm
by Ms Harmless
Vindicator wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think we should fight about all this, we're all entitled to our opinions
how we choose to feel is how we are
don't you dare quote inside job! you said DOTC AND SBWM were better!!
I quoted it ironically, that line is terrible
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:08 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Dont love that teaser. Another "chord" rock song. But its only 10 seconds so whatever
Great, another Vedder-penned, rhythmically-static thud rocker in the vein of Getaway, WWS, etc.
Two such songs, back-to-back, at the start of the album does not bode well, especially when I already disliked SBWM.
I'm confident the album will at least sound much better than the last few, and I still have hope for a handful of songs, but I'll admit my expectations of having an enjoyable front-to-back album have completely flatlined since finding out Ed wrote so much of it.
yea but ed has also wrote:
Porch, RVM, Small Town, not for you, corduroy, better man, whipping, off he goes, habit, wishlist, breakerfall, grievance, insignificance....
There's always hope Spenno!
That was a long time ago, Strat.
His rockers seem cut from the same cloth these days.
I think you could make a kind of horrifying megamix out of Undone, WWS, Green Disease, GSMF, Getaway, Lightning Bolt, SBWM. It's all that same pounding 4/4 rhythm with Ed grunting and bellowing over a bunch of chords banged out on every beat, he's drawing from a very limited sonic palette.
Even when Jeff or Stone or Matt's songs aren't great, they're never that unimaginative.
You're not wrong, but i quite like all those songs sans getaway
Ed's songs should be one colour on a good Pearl Jam album, not the defining feature.
Two, maybe three, Vedder songs on each record is plenty. Six or more is just crowding out the band's better songwriters.
You can't tell me it doesn't grate on the guys that Ed somehow finds space for all his meatloaf rockers but can't get inspired to write lyrics for the ideas they're bringing in.
"Ed & Pearl Jam" indeed.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:09 pm
by Vindicator
Ms Harmless wrote:Vindicator wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think we should fight about all this, we're all entitled to our opinions
how we choose to feel is how we are
don't you dare quote inside job! you said DOTC AND SBWM were better!!
I quoted it ironically, that line is terrible
yeah but focus on your focus ness is super cool
what's wrong with that line? what's wrong with the message of "how I choose to feel, is how I am" especially with how the cadence fits the melody perfectly in that song
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:09 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:you guys are crazy, that sounds fucking sick, even with the shitty encoding. The drums sound huge, the rhythm guitars sound scrappy, and Mike's guitar has some great, Riot Act-era Univibe effects going on.
sounded good to me
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:17 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Dont love that teaser. Another "chord" rock song. But its only 10 seconds so whatever
Great, another Vedder-penned, rhythmically-static thud rocker in the vein of Getaway, WWS, etc.
Two such songs, back-to-back, at the start of the album does not bode well, especially when I already disliked SBWM.
I'm confident the album will at least sound much better than the last few, and I still have hope for a handful of songs, but I'll admit my expectations of having an enjoyable front-to-back album have completely flatlined since finding out Ed wrote so much of it.
yea but ed has also wrote:
Porch, RVM, Small Town, not for you, corduroy, better man, whipping, off he goes, habit, wishlist, breakerfall, grievance, insignificance....
There's always hope Spenno!
That was a long time ago, Strat.
His rockers seem cut from the same cloth these days.
I think you could make a kind of horrifying megamix out of Undone, WWS, Green Disease, GSMF, Getaway, Lightning Bolt, SBWM. It's all that same pounding 4/4 rhythm with Ed grunting and bellowing over a bunch of chords banged out on every beat, he's drawing from a very limited sonic palette.
Even when Jeff or Stone or Matt's songs aren't great, they're never that unimaginative.
You're not wrong, but i quite like all those songs sans getaway
Ed's songs should be one colour on a good Pearl Jam album, not the defining feature.
Two, maybe three, Vedder songs on each record is plenty. Six or more is just crowding out the band's better songwriters.
You can't tell me it doesn't grate on the guys that Ed somehow finds space for all his meatloaf rockers but can't get inspired to write lyrics for the ideas they're bringing in.
"Ed & Pearl Jam" indeed.
100%. Ed has written some gems in the past but his more recent compositions are far less interesting, and he’s the weakest songwriter (musically not lyrically) in the band. I would love an album where the ratio of songs written by the other members to Eddie is reversed. Or even better all songs written by stone, Jeff, and Matt.
With that said, this album sounds amazing so far and I’m super excited for it.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:17 pm
by Ms Harmless
Vindicator wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:Vindicator wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think we should fight about all this, we're all entitled to our opinions
how we choose to feel is how we are
don't you dare quote inside job! you said DOTC AND SBWM were better!!
I quoted it ironically, that line is terrible
yeah but focus on your focus ness is super cool
what's wrong with that line? what's wrong with the message of "how I choose to feel, is how I am" especially with how the cadence fits the melody perfectly in that song
I don't like it, that's what's wrong with it - you're allowed to feel differently
"focus on your focusness" (if that's what the lyrics are) is not supposed to be 100% sincere, Inside Job is
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:20 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
Has tree picked on the "amateur" chord progression and how he'd be able write something far superior yet?
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:31 pm
by Strat
Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Dont love that teaser. Another "chord" rock song. But its only 10 seconds so whatever
Great, another Vedder-penned, rhythmically-static thud rocker in the vein of Getaway, WWS, etc.
Two such songs, back-to-back, at the start of the album does not bode well, especially when I already disliked SBWM.
I'm confident the album will at least sound much better than the last few, and I still have hope for a handful of songs, but I'll admit my expectations of having an enjoyable front-to-back album have completely flatlined since finding out Ed wrote so much of it.
yea but ed has also wrote:
Porch, RVM, Small Town, not for you, corduroy, better man, whipping, off he goes, habit, wishlist, breakerfall, grievance, insignificance....
There's always hope Spenno!
That was a long time ago, Strat.
His rockers seem cut from the same cloth these days.
I think you could make a kind of horrifying megamix out of Undone, WWS, Green Disease, GSMF, Getaway, Lightning Bolt, SBWM. It's all that same pounding 4/4 rhythm with Ed grunting and bellowing over a bunch of chords banged out on every beat, he's drawing from a very limited sonic palette.
Even when Jeff or Stone or Matt's songs aren't great, they're never that unimaginative.
You're not wrong, but i quite like all those songs sans getaway
Ed's songs should be one colour on a good Pearl Jam album, not the defining feature.
Two, maybe three, Vedder songs on each record is plenty. Six or more is just crowding out the band's better songwriters.
You can't tell me it doesn't grate on the guys that Ed somehow finds space for all his meatloaf rockers but can't get inspired to write lyrics for the ideas they're bringing in.
"Ed & Pearl Jam" indeed.
Well that’s pretending we know the inner workings of the band. By all accounts this was a full band effort through and through. There is a chance, a small chance, that the band is actually super excited about the sounds Ed picked.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:31 pm
by VinylGuy
those guitars sound like something from Riot Act.
Thats so cool.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:33 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Well we know River Cross is an ed song
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:33 pm
by TheTVtalkstome
Huell wrote:Amazon are stopping non-essential items being shipped now too... too much pressure on their infrastructure.
Looks like the vinyl will be delayed at this rate too.
Negative sir. We will still get your package to you. They have stopped receiving all non essential items into the fulfillment centers. If the album is already in the building it will be shipped. I actually have not gone out looking for it but probably should.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:36 pm
by scrub12
Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:Dont love that teaser. Another "chord" rock song. But its only 10 seconds so whatever
Great, another Vedder-penned, rhythmically-static thud rocker in the vein of Getaway, WWS, etc.
Two such songs, back-to-back, at the start of the album does not bode well, especially when I already disliked SBWM.
I'm confident the album will at least sound much better than the last few, and I still have hope for a handful of songs, but I'll admit my expectations of having an enjoyable front-to-back album have completely flatlined since finding out Ed wrote so much of it.
yea but ed has also wrote:
Porch, RVM, Small Town, not for you, corduroy, better man, whipping, off he goes, habit, wishlist, breakerfall, grievance, insignificance....
There's always hope Spenno!
That was a long time ago, Strat.
His rockers seem cut from the same cloth these days.
I think you could make a kind of horrifying megamix out of Undone, WWS, Green Disease, GSMF, Getaway, Lightning Bolt, SBWM. It's all that same pounding 4/4 rhythm with Ed grunting and bellowing over a bunch of chords banged out on every beat, he's drawing from a very limited sonic palette.
Even when Jeff or Stone or Matt's songs aren't great, they're never that unimaginative.
You're not wrong, but i quite like all those songs sans getaway
Ed's songs should be one colour on a good Pearl Jam album, not the defining feature.
Two, maybe three, Vedder songs on each record is plenty. Six or more is just crowding out the band's better songwriters.
You can't tell me it doesn't grate on the guys that Ed somehow finds space for all his meatloaf rockers but can't get inspired to write lyrics for the ideas they're bringing in.
"Ed & Pearl Jam" indeed.
I guess the problem with this is a heck of a lot of assuming. How do we even know the other guys are bringing in more songs? We don't know the inner workings of the band.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:39 pm
by Birds in Hell
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Well we know River Cross is an ed song
All the songwriting credits are out there now:
01. Who Ever Said (music: Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
02. Superblood Wolfmoon (music: Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
03. Dance of the Clairvoyants (music: Ament/Cameron/Gossard/McCready/Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
04. Quick Escape (music: Ament, lyrics: Vedder)
05. Alright (music: Ament, lyrics: Ament)
06. Seven O'Clock (music: Ament/Gossard/McCready/Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
07. Never Destination (music: Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
08. Take the Long Way (music: Cameron, lyrics: Cameron)
09. Buckle Up (music: Gossard, lyrics: Gossard)
10. Comes Then Goes (music: Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
11. Retrograde (music: McCready, lyrics: Vedder)
12. River Cross (music: Vedder, lyrics: Vedder)
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:43 pm
by scrub12
So Seven O'Clock isn't just an Ed song I guess.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:47 pm
by Monkey_Driven
5 Ed songs is totally fine guys.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:48 pm
by VinylGuy
scrub12 wrote:So Seven O'Clock isn't just an Ed song I guess.
No, it seems it the jam based song...
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread
Posted: Tue March 17, 2020 11:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
Monkey_Driven wrote:5 Ed songs is totally fine guys.