Red Mosquito

gardenparty wrote:that clip calls to mind mikes usual songwriting style ala Inside Job and Turning Mist. Basic open chords and dull progression. What am i missing here?

I haven't had time too look around yet, but where is the clip?

Lounge Lizard wrote:

gardenparty wrote:that clip calls to mind mikes usual songwriting style ala Inside Job and Turning Mist. Basic open chords and dull progression. What am i missing here?

LET'S give it a chance. Two days, mate, two days.

I like what's going on in that little clip more than anything on the leaks.

all this political talk is getting boring

IlluminEddie wrote:

sward wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:It's going to be interesting that we're going to get two records full of non-political tunes. Wonder what the motivation is there...

I suspect that it got tiresome for even them

I wonder if they would've tired of it had Romney been elected. Seems rare for such a politically motivated band to not write political songs for 8 years around one person's presidency, is all. Maybe... just maybe... that's why PJ didn't want to get back into the studio to finish the album until 2013? They wanted to know who won the election first....then decide on the theme?

I'm so glad you're back!

Lounge Lizard wrote:

stip wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

CupidStunt wrote:

stip wrote:

CupidStunt wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote: He's singing within his register
No screeching. No screaming.

I think you may want to listen to the latter parts of Lightning Bolt before readdressing the above statement(s).

oh it sounds so good there. Same at the end of MYM. It is a great exclamation point. I can see being turned off if it is the entire song (ala johnny guitar, for instance)

To be fair it's just the "thoughts will soon arrIIIIIIVE" part that's grating me at the moment. I like the concept, just don't think it's "in his register" any more. Maybe I'd have preferred a more conservative delivery of that part on record and wouldn't have minded if he wanted to put his nuts on the block a bit more for that bit when played live.

I think that bit at the end of lightning bolt sounds rough . No god with such Miiiieeeeaaaghhhhtttssghthg*coughs up a lung*

Dear Stupidmop,

If you are going to continue to shit on everything I love, then please attach an avatar to your account. You have 1300 posts for fuck's sake.

Sincerely yours,

Stip

Someone turn this into an avatar and ill do it. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8320/8001 ... 0e73_z.jpg

someone please do this

Thanks!

Happy now stip?! I have conformed to your barbaric board ideals. Now everyone knows my true face.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

gardenparty wrote:that clip calls to mind mikes usual songwriting style ala Inside Job and Turning Mist. Basic open chords and dull progression. What am i missing here?

I haven't had time too look around yet, but where is the clip?

Duuuoctaahhh! I said Duuoctaaah! Aint there nut'n I can take to relieve this belly ake

IlluminEddie wrote:

sward wrote:I guess when Obama got elected, the nemesis was gone for Ed. Then his new nemesis started taking shape (religious fanaticism). Realistically all I ask is that they write honest songs and whats true to them and they seem to do that with their various themes. Whatever is occupying Ed's brainspace the most at any given time.

I think we agree that we want him to write about what's true to him/them. My thing is: Just Breathe and The End were perfect for that, yet they get shat on here for some reason. Let's face it, Ed's over 50, writing about death and leaving your loved one's seems very "true". I'd argue Backspacer was "very true". Lots of people don't like that truth.

Basing an album on who's President, kinda doesn't. seem so "true". And when your guy gets in, writing about religious fanaticism (and completely ignoring all other issues) seems almost like a scape goating to me, that's all.

I can't disagree. Though I think the issue was purely Bush and his team and not necessarily 'politics'. I see that as a difference though I'm sure some don't.

dimejinky99 wrote:

CupidStunt wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote: He's singing within his register
No screeching. No screaming.

I think you may want to listen to the latter parts of Lightning Bolt before readdressing the above statement(s).

To be fair, that's the only song I'm not in love with but even in that one, I gotta give it to him, it sounds managed and purposeful.
The point of all the screaming before was to express a feeling through to abandon.
I don't feel this is the case in this song.

Screaming is an inherent part of rock singing. Ed's always been a screamer. Earlier, his screams used to be powerful but didn't really have much technique, ala Blood. He was just screaming his ass off. Sure, it sounded powerful and bad-ass but it takes a toll on the vocal chords to do that day in and day out. No live version of Blood ever matched that studio cut because you just can't scream like that and predict what kind of sound is going to come out. Often, you'll hear voice breaks or Ed running out of breath even on versions from 94 when he was pretty much at his peak.

From 98 onwards, he refined his screaming technique quite a bit to preserve his voice (ironically he kept smoking and drinking). People say his singing is bad because it sounds screechy on S/T and Backspacer. That's not really a fair critique as far as his skill is concerned. Hard rock singing is supposed to sound a bit abrasive. There is a difference in his tone because his voice has changed over the years but technically, there is nothing really off with those screams. He actually knows which notes he is trying to hit and has better control. Yes, due to the deterioration in his voice, sometimes he can't pull stuff off live or it doesn't sound as good as it should. However, his technique now is sustainable and he can replicate studio stuff live when in form. LB live never sounded that much worse than this studio cut, though he obviously benenfitted from multiple takes in the studio to get things just right.

stupidmop wrote: Thanks!

Happy now stip?! I have conformed to your barbaric board ideals. Now everyone knows my true face.

you look like 1993 Lollapalooza Ed with blue hair

This is one hell of a training camp. Can't wait for the season to really start.

Ed's not over 50, btw

IlluminEddie wrote: Let's face it, Ed's over 50

he is not!

groetjes,
Mirella

Writing about wife, family and death is natural but writing anti-fundamentalist religion isn't? Ed's been singing about that forever... or is that for young people? Man, that's so weird.

these vignettes are pissing me off!

Jesus Christ how many times is Mike going to blatantly rip off a Led Zeppelin song?

BurtReynolds wrote:Everything Lightning Bolt is pissing me off!

Fixed!

Lounge Lizard wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

gardenparty wrote:that clip calls to mind mikes usual songwriting style ala Inside Job and Turning Mist. Basic open chords and dull progression. What am i missing here?

I haven't had time too look around yet, but where is the clip?

Duuuoctaahhh! I said Duuoctaaah! Aint there nut'n I can take to relieve this belly ake

Thanks much

cutuphalfdead wrote:Jesus Christ how many times is Mike going to blatantly rip off a Led Zeppelin song?

Can you not see the irony in this post?

Lounge Lizard wrote:

stupidmop wrote: Thanks!

Happy now stip?! I have conformed to your barbaric board ideals. Now everyone knows my true face.

you look like 1993 Lollapalooza Ed with blue hair

I came to the future to learn what has become of the band.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Jesus Christ how many times is Mike going to blatantly rip off a Led Zeppelin song?

which one is it now?