Red Mosquito

Monkey_Driven wrote:Remind me, what clip from the metal door video is Wreckage?

Kevin Davis wrote:

digster wrote:I think Ed's writing is one thing, but I think they'd benefit if he just didn't play guitar on some of the songs he brought in. Sometimes he brings in a song where all three guitars are utilized well (Insignificance, Grievance, I'd argue WWS), but on others he just takes up so much sonic space doing something that isn't as interesting. Unthought Known is a good example; if Ed wasn't just playing big, messy open chords as much as he could throughout the whole song, there might be some room for some cool sonics from the guitars. As it is, Stone or Mike may feel like they can't add much without it turning into mush. I do get if Ed wrote it, he wants to play on it, but it might open things up a bit more.

I completely agree with this; it anchors the song to a sort of lowest-common-denominator baseline that precludes other members from being able to build the composition around more interesting things. The idea of "Unthought Known" with Eddie's guitar removed, replaced with empty space for Mike, Stone, and Jeff to create some musical variation that doesn't exist in the vocal melody, is instantly more exciting to me in thought than what the song is now.

I'm not in love with Ed's guitar tone either; songs that feature it as the main attraction always feel sonically a bit thinner to me than songs where the primary rhythm is played by Mike or Stone.

Monkey_Driven wrote:Remind me, what clip from the metal door video is Wreckage?

Birds in Hell wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

digster wrote:I think Ed's writing is one thing, but I think they'd benefit if he just didn't play guitar on some of the songs he brought in. Sometimes he brings in a song where all three guitars are utilized well (Insignificance, Grievance, I'd argue WWS), but on others he just takes up so much sonic space doing something that isn't as interesting. Unthought Known is a good example; if Ed wasn't just playing big, messy open chords as much as he could throughout the whole song, there might be some room for some cool sonics from the guitars. As it is, Stone or Mike may feel like they can't add much without it turning into mush. I do get if Ed wrote it, he wants to play on it, but it might open things up a bit more.

I completely agree with this; it anchors the song to a sort of lowest-common-denominator baseline that precludes other members from being able to build the composition around more interesting things. The idea of "Unthought Known" with Eddie's guitar removed, replaced with empty space for Mike, Stone, and Jeff to create some musical variation that doesn't exist in the vocal melody, is instantly more exciting to me in thought than what the song is now.

I'm not in love with Ed's guitar tone either; songs that feature it as the main attraction always feel sonically a bit thinner to me than songs where the primary rhythm is played by Mike or Stone.

I can't speak to the studio recordings but they did this surprisingly often with Ed's Gigaton material when played live, which feels like a new thing.

He doesn't play guitar at all on Who Ever Said or Superblood Wolfmooon:




And while he has a guitar strapped on for Never Destination, he only really plays it during the middle section and adds some E-Bow during the intro. Stone is holding down the primary rhythm during the song:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Man, Never Destination just works for me live. I love the energy. I hope they keep it in a rotation for the next tour.

Ms Harmless wrote:
I enjoyed these performances, flubbed lyrics and all

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:
I enjoyed these performances, flubbed lyrics and all

Modern Pearl Jam gets way too much flak for their live performances. They're still an outstanding band.

Ms Harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:
I enjoyed these performances, flubbed lyrics and all

Modern Pearl Jam gets way too much flak for their live performances. They're still an outstanding band.

when it sounds like they've been rehearsing, they are; there was a period during the Backspacer / Lightning Bolt era when it really sounded to me like they were flying by the seat of their pants; I have to think it was because they had young families and didn't have time, but I don't wanna see PJ live unless they're super tight

VinylGuy wrote:they are amazing live. Their show from 2022 was fucking tight

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

guitar_davey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:
I enjoyed these performances, flubbed lyrics and all

Modern Pearl Jam gets way too much flak for their live performances. They're still an outstanding band.

when it sounds like they've been rehearsing, they are; there was a period during the Backspacer / Lightning Bolt era when it really sounded to me like they were flying by the seat of their pants; I have to think it was because they had young families and didn't have time, but I don't wanna see PJ live unless they're super tight

Yeah, I thought there was a bit of slippage on the 2010 and 2014 tours when I saw the band. They were super tight in 2022, however. I think the shorter sets helped.

Ms Harmless wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:they are amazing live. Their show from 2022 was fucking tight

it seems the Gigaton era put back a desire to sound tight, and I welcome it

Monkey_Driven wrote:Any RMer going to the listening party at the end of the month? I feel like that will being the next wave of buzz.

scrub12 wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Any RMer going to the listening party at the end of the month? I feel like that will being the next wave of buzz.

There's almost certainly going to be another single...right? They did for Gigaton, and I can't imagine them just riding one single for two months.