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Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:56 pm
by Monkey_Driven
B wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

Did you tell them that showing weakness without consequences is also a privilege?
Maybe that's White Privilege 2.0.
2.1*
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:07 pm
by macphisto
B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:37 pm
by McParadigm
macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:45 pm
by Iholdthepain
McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:48 pm
by elliseamos
Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:48 pm
by macphisto
McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Eight-year-old, dude.
Also, super cool personal attack.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:50 pm
by Iholdthepain
elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:52 pm
by elliseamos
Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:53 pm
by Iholdthepain
elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
I have no idea wtf happened, Mr. Assumption.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:57 pm
by B
I do not shame myself or my kids. But they're not going to walk around unaware that their black friends may be carrying a burden that they are totally unaware of.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:57 pm
by B
B wrote:I do not shame myself or my kids. But they're not going to walk around unaware that their black friends may be carrying a burden that they are totally unaware of.
That was shitting wording, but you get the idea.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:58 pm
by macphisto
B wrote:B wrote:I do not shame myself or my kids. But they're not going to walk around unaware that their black friends may be carrying a burden that they are totally unaware of.
That was shitting wording, but you get the idea.
Now I'm crying because of your shitting wording.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:00 pm
by elliseamos
Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
I have no idea wtf happened, Mr. Assumption.
I'm not assuming, you two are commenting on the age of his son being too early for this talk. You've no idea what the kid is like and what he asked about. So putting your opinion at the end is assuming that at a later age would be any easier... we've got old men in positions of power that still don't understand the issue.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:03 pm
by PHATJ
elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
I have no idea wtf happened, Mr. Assumption.
I'm not assuming, you two are commenting on the age of his son being too early for this talk. You've no idea what the kid is like and what he asked about. So putting your opinion at the end is assuming that at a later age would be any easier... we've got old men in positions of power that still don't understand the issue.
Old women too, you sexist pig.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:04 pm
by Iholdthepain
elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
I have no idea wtf happened, Mr. Assumption.
I'm not assuming, you two are commenting on the age of his son being too early for this talk. You've no idea what the kid is like and what he asked about. So putting your opinion at the end is assuming that at a later age would be any easier... we've got old men in positions of power that still don't understand the issue.
Kids where I teach don't even learn about state history until age 10, so I'm kinda using that as my guide regarding even having the cognitive ability to understand the topic...
Jesus Fucking Christ, dude. Lay off!
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:05 pm
by Mickey
macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
I truly wish I'd had this experience at a younger age, would have curbed some of my worse impulses and the internalized racism I'd certainly already picked up by 8.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:05 pm
by elliseamos
PHATJ wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
I have no idea wtf happened, Mr. Assumption.
I'm not assuming, you two are commenting on the age of his son being too early for this talk. You've no idea what the kid is like and what he asked about. So putting your opinion at the end is assuming that at a later age would be any easier... we've got old men in positions of power that still don't understand the issue.
Old women too, you sexist pig.
Women aren't in power, Phat. Good try, though.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:06 pm
by elliseamos
Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:elliseamos wrote:Iholdthepain wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Slavery... Genocide... I'd say it's pretty shameful what our European ancestors did in this country. This is where our privelege began. It's weak to turn a blind eye to it and not feel some kind of shame. To travel around, all arrogant about it and selfish, like the 'Dont Tread On Me' crowd is doing during CoronApocalypse is the ultimate case / point in how arrogant white privelege can be.
8 years old is a little young, though, to be talking it up, imo.
something tells me the tears were a byproduct of explaining it at all, not talking about in general. Where's my jump to conclusions board?
Explaining...
Talking it up...
Splitting hairs here a little?
no, my point is that you and macphisto are assuming you know what transpired based on two sentences from B.
I have no idea wtf happened, Mr. Assumption.
I'm not assuming, you two are commenting on the age of his son being too early for this talk. You've no idea what the kid is like and what he asked about. So putting your opinion at the end is assuming that at a later age would be any easier... we've got old men in positions of power that still don't understand the issue.
Kids where I teach don't even learn about state history until age 10, so I'm kinda using that as my guide regarding even having the cognitive ability to understand the topic...
Jesus Fucking Christ, dude. Lay off!
calmer than you are...
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:08 pm
by B
macphisto wrote:B wrote:B wrote:I do not shame myself or my kids. But they're not going to walk around unaware that their black friends may be carrying a burden that they are totally unaware of.
That was shitting wording, but you get the idea.
Now I'm crying because of your shitting wording.

damn it.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:08 pm
by McParadigm
macphisto wrote:McParadigm wrote:macphisto wrote:B wrote:This shit is really hard to explain to my kids. We made my 8 year old cry at the dinner table trying to explain white privilege.

I can't imagine poisoning a child's thinking and making them ashamed of who they are at such a tender age. I mean, just, holy fuck.
Why does acknowledging that you have, by happenstance, benefitted from a systemic privilege necessitate shame? What an insecure and weak world view that must come from.
Eight-year-old, dude.
Also, super cool personal attack.
Shame is negative evaluation of the self. Part of parenting is teaching your children how to engage the big conversations...both within themselves and with others...and to be able to contextualize the world around themselves without it costing their own self perception.