Re: Unpopular Music Opinions
Posted: Wed March 10, 2021 4:05 pm
verb_to_trust wrote:I have also hadclose tozero exposure to Hamilton and believe I am the better for it.
verb_to_trust wrote:I have also hadclose tozero exposure to Hamilton and believe I am the better for it.
I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.epilogue wrote:Seasons of Love!
The songs are great, especially "Satisfied" and "Wait for It," but I wasn't thinking of Hamilton. More the work of people like Gershwin, Porter, Kern, etc. The Great American Songbook, I'm a sucker for that stuff. I like a lot of newer musicals too, for many different reasons, but I'm not sure I'd put their songs in that categoryepilogue wrote:To think I used to feel bad that our tastes didn't overlap more.Mickey wrote:I heard a four second clip from Hamilton on NPR in 2016 and it was one of the most skin-crawling experiences I've ever had. I'm still trying to delete it from my brain.
this is painful. music can be a lot of things.Mickey wrote:Please take your disgusting desire for narrative out of my affect-driven art form, thanks.Jorge wrote:I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunesepilogue wrote:That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes.Mickey wrote:I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.epilogue wrote:Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.Mickey wrote:I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.
In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.
Ah well. Tis what tis.
I couldn’t care less one way or another about musical theater and it’s songs.Mickey wrote:*Whisper-singing* Two thousand twenty one...
You are welcome to simp for plot and character in any other thread, this is the unpopular music opinions space.spike wrote:this is painful. music can be a lot of things.Mickey wrote:Please take your disgusting desire for narrative out of my affect-driven art form, thanks.Jorge wrote:I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunesepilogue wrote:That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes.Mickey wrote:I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.epilogue wrote:Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.Mickey wrote:I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.
In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.
Ah well. Tis what tis.
a musical's affective relation to its viewers/listeners is the source of my distaste for it. i've never dug theatricalityMickey wrote:Please take your disgusting desire for narrative out of my affect-driven art form, thanks.Jorge wrote:I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunesepilogue wrote:That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes.Mickey wrote:I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.epilogue wrote:Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.Mickey wrote:I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.epilogue wrote:As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.
In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.
Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.
Ah well. Tis what tis.
I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.Mickey wrote:I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.epilogue wrote:Seasons of Love!
Y'all are not alone. Most of my actor friends feel the same way.Jorge wrote:I very intensely dislike him too, for what it's worth
Bringing up Rent songs unprompted is "fucked up"epilogue wrote:I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.Mickey wrote:I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.epilogue wrote:Seasons of Love!
It wasn't unpromptedMickey wrote:Bringing up Rent songs unprompted is "fucked up"epilogue wrote:I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.Mickey wrote:I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.epilogue wrote:Seasons of Love!
Shameless.epilogue wrote:It wasn't unpromptedMickey wrote:Bringing up Rent songs unprompted is "fucked up"epilogue wrote:I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.Mickey wrote:I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.epilogue wrote:Seasons of Love!