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Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 12:49 am
by nyquillyn
Hillary will have an almost 500 delegate lead going into Super Tuesday, where she should kick ass. It's basically over.
Also, I've been screaming "demographics!" for weeks and that really played out in Nevada. Hillary dominated with women, "party loyalists" and some exit polling shows she won over 70% of the black vote. How can Bernie win a single southern state fighting those kinds of numbers?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:20 am
by stip
The demographics have been fluid--Bernie has narrowed her commanding leads in most areas, and Hilary is not a candidate people are likely to shift to. He doesn't have to beat her in any of those areas--just chip away at leads a few percentage points here and there.
Nevada was allegedly a great state for her. She clearly won, but it was not decisive or a momentum killer. She will likely do better in SC. The question is whether or not Bernie can continue to build momentum in the super Tuesday states.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:21 am
by stip
I'm still betting on Hilary. It's just not hard to envision ways for this to break for Bernie
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:28 am
by Norah
'2black is right
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:29 am
by Simple Torture
Carson has to drop out, right? I hope not--I love having him in the debate cycle.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:31 am
by 96583UP
Hillary with another convincing win. 5% margin of victory. Total Juggernaut
separately, this:
Footage shows a young Bernie Sanders arrested during civil rights protest
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... ts-protest
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:34 am
by Simple Torture
I don't think the % margin of victory has much to do with it; I think it's that the polls are holding, and if the polls hold across the board, Clinton wins running away. Nevada was basically a toss up (there wasn't a lot of polling, but still), but the demographics held as expected.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:47 am
by nyquillyn
Also, I'd be shocked if that number in CNN's demo story about Bernie actually "winning" the Hispanic vote in early exit polling held true. I'm guessing that included a broad spectrum of rural areas and a small sampling of LV.
Nevada's hispanic population is centered around LV (Clark County) and they had some insanely long lines, so I'd guess she actually "won" that demographic.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:48 am
by BurtReynolds
The system is working as designed.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:48 am
by Green Habit
At least we won't have another Bush/Clinton general election.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:52 am
by dpupenya
Bush out
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:58 am
by nyquillyn
That means Nate Silver's two GOP "front runners" (Walker and Bush) have dropped out.

Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 1:59 am
by Green Habit
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 2:00 am
by Norah
Green Habit wrote:
That have has not a clue.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 2:01 am
by Simple Torture
Green Habit wrote:
That's some Manny-Ramirez-style baserunning right there.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 2:10 am
by dimejinky99
Bush is gone and Trump has won South Carolina?
Oh dear God
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 2:19 am
by nyquillyn
stip wrote:I'm still betting on Hilary. It's just not hard to envision ways for this to break for Bernie
Actually, it
is pretty hard.
The schedule is really stacked in her favor with all the southern states on Super Tuesday.
I also think that coming out of Super Tuesday the Dem "establishment" will be pushing to end all doubt early and let the nation focus on the GOP circus.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 2:20 am
by 96583UP
wonder who will get Bush's supporters ... Rubio?
SimpleTorture you must know. You know everything. digame
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 2:31 am
by LoathedVermin72
Simple Torture wrote:Carson has to drop out, right? I hope not--I love having him in the debate cycle.
"PLEASE GO TO BENCARSON.COM"
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 3:17 am
by stip
Simple Torture wrote:I don't think the % margin of victory has much to do with it; I think it's that the polls are holding, and if the polls hold across the board, Clinton wins running away. Nevada was basically a toss up (there wasn't a lot of polling, but still), but the demographics held as expected.
I have not been following the polls particularly closely but I was under the impression they aren't holding, and that there seems to be a growing shift towards Sanders. Perhaps not quickly enough, given the massive slate of votes up for grabs in a week