Red Mosquito

BlakeWB wrote:Is there any information out there about how and why Pearl Jam chose this album title?

edit: I ask because Dark Energy comprises a larger percentage of mass-energy in the universe than Dark Matter. So if they wanted to “go big,” they should have gone with the former. I’m sure somebody here knows.

they're just notoriously shitty physicists.

Upper Hand had just overtaken Stevie as my fav track.

I still find wreckage a missed opportunity. It’s just a bit sloppy with its lyrics. Ed throwing paint at canvas as opposed to painting a picture imho.

Got to give is my amongst the waves.

Sometimes I love it. the next time it floats by and then I realise it’s at the bridge and I enjoy the ending.

The first two songs still have amazing moments

SOF - the bridge into the final chorus. French kiss
R/R - that second verse gets me every time + Mikes solo

Are there any links to light matter audio other than YouTube?

BlakeWB wrote:Is there any information out there about how and why Pearl Jam chose this album title?

edit: I ask because Dark Energy comprises a larger percentage of mass-energy in the universe than Dark Matter. So if they wanted to “go big,” they should have gone with the former. I’m sure somebody here knows.

"Dark Matter" sounds cooler and is a pun for "difficult subject"

i got bugs wrote:Are there any links to light matter audio other than YouTube?

https://darkmatter.nu/threads/pearl-jam ... emix.1878/

rimb wrote:

i got bugs wrote:Are there any links to light matter audio other than YouTube?

https://darkmatter.nu/threads/pearl-jam ... emix.1878/

If only we had actual stems to work from, and not these AI stems that sound like they're underwater.

I was really hoping for another song to come out that I could add to this album (or maybe replace Something Special), like we got with Get it Back.

Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

I think it’s reasonable if you discovered PJ in the last 15 years, but if you’ve been following them since Ten, you might put this ahead of some of the albums between Ten and Riot Act, but not ahead of all of them.

i'd probaby put this and gigaton ahead of riot act. i don't think anything is going to break into the top 5, but the last two might be somewhere between 6-8.

Gigaton and DM go right after the first 7 in my ranking, only because they sound like they're made by the same band

Ms Harmless wrote:Gigaton and DM go right after the first 7 in my ranking, only because they sound like they're made by the same band

yeah, i kinda feel Gigaton could have been released after Vitalogy too

daft twat wrote:

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

I think it’s reasonable if you discovered PJ in the last 15 years, but if you’ve been following them since Ten, you might put this ahead of some of the albums between Ten and Riot Act, but not ahead of all of them.

Why not? It's Superblood's personal rankings.

we have to be careful to not upset other RMers with our personal rankings, we're all in this together

Ms Harmless wrote:we have to be careful to not upset other RMers with our personal rankings, we're all in this together

Beware the Ranker:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

daft twat wrote:

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

I think it’s reasonable if you discovered PJ in the last 15 years, but if you’ve been following them since Ten, you might put this ahead of some of the albums between Ten and Riot Act, but not ahead of all of them.

Why not? It's Superblood's personal rankings.

Because I like to inform other people how they really feel.

Look, I love DM. If it was their second album, I’d probably feel about it the way I feel about Vs. I just think the length of a person’s relationship with an album as well as the experiences and stages of life associated with an album will always be too impactful to really feel a new album is your favorite, even if it is better.

If I were suddenly widowed and found myself like Bill Belicheck, probably the biggest hope I’d have is that she reminded me of my wife when she was young, but even if she did, and even if she did some things better than my wife did, there is no way I could love her more than the person who I fell in love with 25 years ago and who has been through it all with me since.

daft twat wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

daft twat wrote:

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

I think it’s reasonable if you discovered PJ in the last 15 years, but if you’ve been following them since Ten, you might put this ahead of some of the albums between Ten and Riot Act, but not ahead of all of them.

Why not? It's Superblood's personal rankings.

Because I like to inform other people how they really feel.

Look, I love DM. If it was their second album, I’d probably feel about it the way I feel about Vs. I just think the length of a person’s relationship with an album as well as the experiences and stages of life associated with an album will always be too impactful to really feel a new album is your favorite, even if it is better.

If I were suddenly widowed and found myself like Bill Belicheck, probably the biggest hope I’d have is that she reminded me of my wife when she was young, but even if she did, and even if she did some things better than my wife did, there is no way I could love her more than the person who I fell in love with 25 years ago and who has been through it all with me since.

This raises a big point, and will be something I am exploring as I think about not just Pearl Jam albums, but many of the albums once I hit the 90s in that studio albums thread. Will I think of those albums that most impacted me as a mid-to-late teen in higher regard than some of the mind blowing albums I have been listening to the last 10 months because I lived in those albums longer and have a history with them, or will I divorce myself from it? I imagine that it will be a lot of the former precisely because what I am trying to capture in that thread is a feeling for all these albums. Those feelings are a bit deeper for albums I have spent decades with in times I needed them and times I just wanted a distraction. Either way, this is a concept at the front of my mind these days.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

daft twat wrote:

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

I think it’s reasonable if you discovered PJ in the last 15 years, but if you’ve been following them since Ten, you might put this ahead of some of the albums between Ten and Riot Act, but not ahead of all of them.

Why not? It's Superblood's personal rankings.

I'm so unreasonable!

Monkey_Driven wrote:

daft twat wrote:

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Dare I say this is my favorite PJ album. It really is a triumph in every regard and easily the best complete work they've done this century. Every song is special in its own way, but Wreckage, Upper Hand, Stevie, Got to Give, and Setting Sun effortlessly achieve the sort of heights I thought the band might not be capable of anymore. This is the new bar, and I hope going forward they measure whatever they do against it. In some ways I feel this would be the greatest swan song a band could give its fans, and if they had called it quits after this one, I would have completely understood and celebrated a career arc that's untouchable.

I think it’s reasonable if you discovered PJ in the last 15 years, but if you’ve been following them since Ten, you might put this ahead of some of the albums between Ten and Riot Act, but not ahead of all of them.

Why not? It's Superblood's personal rankings.

The only sensible response. For my part, I listened to the whole album recently and loved it, though depending on the source I can certainly notice the "loudness" of the production sometimes (it's worst when I'm driving because Spotify reverts to lower quality).