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Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:40 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:those are literally the two best songs on the album
aw huh

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:43 pm
by Anders
Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:54 pm
by mikejasond
cutuphalfdead wrote:those are literally the two best songs on the album
Corduroy and Betterman are Top 3 Pearl Jam. Or at least Top 5.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:54 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Corduroy sucks

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:55 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:56 pm
by mikejasond
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Corduroy sucks
It's such an incredible songs and one of the most uniquely Pearl Jam songs Ive heard. I can't really think of another song that sounds like this. And unlike their later efforts this isn't just unique, but also good.

The lyrics are some of Eddie's best. The way the song builds and flows is amazing. Its wonderfully constructed, and wonderfully sung as well.

Its very possible that the transition into the bridge here is the best moment in the pearl jam catalog. Its certainly up there.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
nope, it sucks

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:58 pm
by Anders
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 2:58 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
This is a ludicrous take

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:00 pm
by Anders
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
This is a ludicrous take
There are songs on Backspacer that are better than Get Right, but still.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:00 pm
by mikejasond
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
As somebody who likes Backspacer at least a little bit and hates Riot Act, Get Right is more interesting than the songs on Backspacer.

I bet if Backspacer sounded more like Get Right it'd be a LOT better.

Some of that is performance and production based though I gotta admit. Its hard for me to imagine a Backspacer with this guitar sound and this Eddie. But I bet it could have been pretty great.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:01 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
This is a ludicrous take
There are songs on Backspacer that are better than Get Right, but still.
You just made it even more ludicrous

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:02 pm
by Anders
mikejasond wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
As somebody who likes Backspacer at least a little bit and hates Riot Act, Get Right is more interesting than the songs on Backspacer.

I bet if Backspacer sounded more like Get Right it'd be a LOT better.

Some of that is performance and production based though I gotta admit. Its hard for me to imagine a Backspacer with this guitar sound and this Eddie. But I bet it could have been pretty great.
It's bottom three for me on Riot Act. It lacks that grit and punch you find on Vs and Vitalogy, and has that modern day Pearl Jam feel to it. And not in a good way.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:03 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Get Right is noisy and weird. Backspacer is not.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:03 pm
by Anders
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
This is a ludicrous take
There are songs on Backspacer that are better than Get Right, but still.
You just made it even more ludicrous
It's not a very good song. If you don't see that, it will be difficult to agree. But surely you can hear how it's typical of modern 21st century Pearl Jam.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:04 pm
by Norah
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
This is a ludicrous take
There are songs on Backspacer that are better than Get Right, but still.
No there aren't. Jorge is right.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:04 pm
by Anders
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Get Right is noisy and weird. Backspacer is not.
It's got no punch, weak singing, nothing exciting about it.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:05 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:Tremor Christ really is an amazing achievement. Where Get Right showed us what was to come in the next decade (for better or worse) on Riot Act, Thremor Christ does it here. It's like the first taste of No Code and Yield, but with the best of the Vs/Vitalogy sound. Great lyrics as well.
Huh????????
Yes, Get Right is like the first Backspacer song.
This is a ludicrous take
There are songs on Backspacer that are better than Get Right, but still.
You just made it even more ludicrous
It's not a very good song. If you don't see that, it will be difficult to agree. But surely you can hear how it's typical of modern 21st century Pearl Jam.
I absolutely cannot hear that even a little bit. It runs totally counter to everything I dislike about new PJ

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:05 pm
by Norah
Yeah I'm with Jorge here.

Re: Vitalogy Survivor: Round 5

Posted: Sat March 24, 2018 3:06 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Get Right is noisy and weird. Backspacer is not.
It's got no punch, weak singing, nothing exciting about it.
I love Ed’s muted, low vocals, Jeff’s punchy, funky bass, and the grinding, noisy guitars. I could not disagree with you more.