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Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: inactive
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:04 pm
by stip
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Frankly, it’s not possible for a song like Pendulum to work when the production makes it sound like a sheet of aluminum foil.
I think it works in spite of the production, but the production is not doing the song any favors. Imagine if this was on Binaural.
The live versions really speak to what this song should be like on the album
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:08 pm
by stip
Speaking of, vote for Pendulum - a song I quite like but, as LV points out, is really undercut by the album's production.
Lightning Bolt, despite a weak opening section (see also Life Wasted and Force of Nature, two other songs I adore) and the most criminal fade in the entire catalog, has solid lyrics throughout, a committed performance from Ed, and is a fantastic example of how to sustain a constant sense of rising intensity - the song conveys the sense of just building and building even though it largely stays in the same place. And Mike's mini solo after the first verse is wonderful.
Mind Your Manners is just amazing from top to bottom. One of Ed's better lyrics, a great growly performance, that super cool second chorus (the self-realized...part), fantastic intro and outro, and that great solo. The only complaint I have with the song is the generic main riff, but it's a genre piece and those kind of punk songs just have those generic riffs. This is the most criminally underrated (and arguably misunderstood) song pearl jam has, methinks
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:10 pm
by darth_vedder
Lightning Bolt
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:14 pm
by LetMeSleep
Lightning Bolt huffs and puffs and just comes across as the most overworked piece of crap this band have ever produced. Barring Mike's first solo there's not one second that sounds like a band effortlessly playing. If there was a PJBot pumping out material here on out, this would be the soulless product.
Somehow MYM survives for the opening 7 seconds alone.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:24 pm
by darth_vedder
I really do enjoy Mikes first solo in LB the song, but outside of that it's tough for me to listen to the rest.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:24 pm
by Anders
Mind Your Manners
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:33 pm
by Monkey_Driven
MYM
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:49 pm
by digster
I think this top 3 is a fair amount stronger than Backspacer, which underlines to me that there is stronger songwriting on this record overall. I get the critiques of Pendulum; the lyrics are fairly threadbare, it could have used a few more polishes and re-examinations in the songwriting process. But I do like it nonetheless. LB I like as well, and it's fun when it gets going at the end, but it may be a notch below. MYM, to my surprise, ended up being my favorite song on this record.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 1:56 pm
by stip
digster wrote:I think this top 3 is a fair amount stronger than Backspacer, which underlines to me that there is stronger songwriting on this record overall. I get the critiques of Pendulum; the lyrics are fairly threadbare, it could have used a few more polishes and re-examinations in the songwriting process. But I do like it nonetheless. LB I like as well, and it's fun when it gets going at the end, but it may be a notch below. MYM, to my surprise, ended up being my favorite song on this record.
Although I like Backspacer more overall, I agree that this is a stronger top 3.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 2:15 pm
by epilogue
darth_vedder wrote:Lightning Bolt
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 2:49 pm
by Strat
Pendulum even though its the song i rather hear live.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 3:18 pm
by PHATJ
Ba bye MYM

Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: inactive
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 4:22 pm
by Mike
Birds in Hell wrote:It's a dull, by-numbers attempt at an interesting Pearl Jam song. Ed's vocals and lyrics feel totally contrived.
Uh huh
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 4:22 pm
by Mike
Oh sorry, i meant "aahh ah ah ah ahhhhh"
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 5:42 pm
by chewm
Pendulum.
I quite like Lightning Bolt (the song)
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 5:55 pm
by CopperTom
MYM
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 6:18 pm
by evenslow
They eventually managed to somehow make Lightning Bolt a live powerhouse.
But, on record, it's adios.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 6:34 pm
by epilogue
I guess I'm the only one who thinks the live version is just as mediocre and uninteresting as the studio version.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 6:35 pm
by LetMeSleep
durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I'm the only one who thinks the live version is just as mediocre and uninteresting as the studio version.
Nope, I've wanted to kill myself every time I've heard it.
Re: Lightning Bolt Survivor: round 7
Posted: Fri March 30, 2018 6:35 pm
by Norah
team joey