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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:02 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Is anyone surprised the most recently released console, with the highest price, looks the best?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:07 pm
by tree_
No.. but I don't get why the XBox One Regular doesn't run it as well as PS4 and why the rendering on PS4 Pro makes it look worse than on PS4 Regular. Weird.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:26 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:damn you ruddo

tree you fool i live in Montana, and have a gaggle of family in Idaho, some of my best friends are cowboys
uh huh... probably not like in the game though. they're modern cowboys. they probably aren't racist, enjoy post-modern art and treat their women well.
Brokeback mountain amirite

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:26 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:No.. but I don't get why the XBox One Regular doesn't run it as well as PS4 and why the rendering on PS4 Pro makes it look worse than on PS4 Regular. Weird.
Um, the Pro definitely looks better than the base PS4. A "softer" image at a much higher resolution and with better HDR. The Xbox One is underpowered compared to the base PS4. Always has been.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:48 pm
by tree_
Someone said in a review I watched the other day that it doesn't look right on the PS4 Pro.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my life, it’s that YouTube reviewers have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to video quality

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:01 pm
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my life, it’s that YouTube reviewers have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to video quality
What's up guys it's xxxGamerDude316xxx and today we're going to talk about anti-aliasing but first hit like and subscribe

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:02 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my life, it’s that YouTube reviewers have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to video quality
What's up guys it's xxxGamerDude316xxx and today we're going to talk about anti-aliasing but first hit like and subscribe
“This 4K Blu-ray looks terrible; too grainy.”

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:16 pm
by tree_
nah he seemed to really know his stuff

alot of technical jargon

i'll see if i can find it in a bit when things cool off

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:17 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Nobody’s going to watch it

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:18 pm
by jwfocker
I mean it clearly looks better on the PS4 Pro. It's objective.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:20 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I trust Digital Foundry for these types of things, they really know their stuff.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digi ... 2-face-off

"With that said, while there are key differences between the four different console versions, the level of commonality in terms of the visual feature set is worth emphasising. Long-time Digital Foundry readers may remember that the original Red Dead Redemption saw a reduction in environment detail - specifically with foliage - on PlayStation 3, with Xbox 360 delivering richer landscapes. There are no such differences that we could spot with the sequel. Environments are equally as lush on all platforms, rendering effects are almost a complete match, while draw distances and pop-in are just as solid regardless of the machine you play it on.

However, the implementation of certain effects - shadow quality and the intensity of depth of field - is tied to rendering resolution, an aspect of the presentation that varies substantially between each version of the game. At the top of the stack sits Xbox One X, rendering natively on ultra HD displays and looking magnificent. Taking the runner-up position here is PlayStation 4 Pro, which uses a reconstruction technique - likely checkerboarding - to take a native 1920x2160 framebuffer up to 4K."

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 4:18 pm
by Bammer
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tree_ wrote:Trag wouldn't enjoy cowboy fun. Too much toxic masculinity.
quoting just because I'm in an instigating mood and I want trag to see. Doesn't he have you foed?
Trag, you gotta know your enemy. Blocking and ignoring a foe's activity is foolhardy.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 4:21 pm
by tragabigzanda
1. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES)
2. Mario Kart (Wii)
3. Half-Life 2 (PC)
4. Twisted Metal 2 (PS1)
5. NHL 95 (Sega Genesis)
6. The Oregon Trail (graphical version, 1985, Apple II)
7. Metroid: Zero Mission (GBA)
8. Missile Command (Arcade)
9. Rocket League (PS4)
10. Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Father (PC)

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 4:22 pm
by scrub12
Definitely looks best on an Xbox One X, but I'm too cheap to upgrade when I know a new console is coming here soon.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 4:23 pm
by LoathedVermin72
scrub12 wrote:Definitely looks best on an Xbox One X, but I'm too cheap to upgrade when I know a new console is coming here soon.
I said the same thing until that insane GameStop deal over the weekend. Also I’ve heard talk that the next consoles won’t have disc drives and I don’t know that I’ll upgrade if that’s the case.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 4:29 pm
by Monkey_Driven
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
scrub12 wrote:Definitely looks best on an Xbox One X, but I'm too cheap to upgrade when I know a new console is coming here soon.
I said the same thing until that insane GameStop deal over the weekend. Also I’ve heard talk that the next consoles won’t have disc drives and I don’t know that I’ll upgrade if that’s the case.
I really, really hope the new consoles have disc drives and I am totally against a subscription/streaming only model for a console. Call me old school, but I want to own my games.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 6:01 pm
by jwfocker
While I don't think the next consoles will skip on having disc drives; I also don't think it would be that big of a negative. PC games are pretty much strictly digital and it isn't an issue. Not having disc drives also frees up a ton of room for larger graphics cards and RAM and so forth. It's one reason a lot of new laptops don't have disc drives.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 6:17 pm
by Monkey_Driven
jwfocker wrote:While I don't think the next consoles will skip on having disc drives; I also don't think it would be that big of a negative. PC games are pretty much strictly digital and it isn't an issue. Not having disc drives also frees up a ton of room for larger graphics cards and RAM and so forth. It's one reason a lot of new laptops don't have disc drives.
It's not an issue, because PC games work on PCs in perpetuity (for the most part). Console games are usually locked to a certain system and lose support/server support years later. My concern is companies no longer offering games digitally due to these and potential licensing issues down the line. Not to mention the inability to share or sell games.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 6:26 pm
by jwfocker
Monkey_Driven wrote:
jwfocker wrote:While I don't think the next consoles will skip on having disc drives; I also don't think it would be that big of a negative. PC games are pretty much strictly digital and it isn't an issue. Not having disc drives also frees up a ton of room for larger graphics cards and RAM and so forth. It's one reason a lot of new laptops don't have disc drives.
It's not an issue, because PC games work on PCs in perpetuity (for the most part). Console games are usually locked to a certain system and lose support/server support years later. My concern is companies no longer offering games digitally due to these and potential licensing issues down the line. Not to mention the inability to share or sell games.

Yeah I get that guy. I understand the difference. All games lose server support eventually but that wouldn't impact the digital version of a single player game. Licensing issues are muddy as hell. That's a constant battle no matter what.

Sharing and selling games would be the biggest negative. I'm just looking at it from a why would consoles move to a non disc format. I'm not for it either. I do understand why companies would think of doing it though.