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warehouse wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

warehouse wrote:

stip wrote:

warehouse wrote:

digster wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

wtfisaledbetter? wrote:Yeah its a great idea if they quit cutting the shows up. Nobody really cares if Ed mentions Beth or whatever.. just leave the shows as is and release em.

I'm pretty sure they're not omitting mentions of Beth for the fans; I suspect Ed is probably doing it for himself and his current wife. And honestly, while as a listener I find it frustrating, as a husband I completely understand and respect why he does it.

That said, I would much prefer they do it this way and just omit the song altogether, rather than genetically modify the actual content of the song a la "Oceans" from Unplugged.

I kind of feel like having to go through the act of discussing and then excising something like that would be an extremely more awkward situation than just finding some other performance, or even just leaving it in.

agreed. "yeah hun, i used to be in love w/ that woman, thats why i sang her name". is that gonna end a marriage?

I would assume that these thoughts have crossed people's minds, and if no one was bothered they wouldn't be doing it.

so u think eddie vedder's wife is shallow enough to be offended that he used to sing the womans name he was in love with before he met her?

its fuckin lame no matter how you cut it.

It's not about shallowness, or about whether or not it's going to immediately result in a divorce; it's probably just a general respect Ed is trying to show his current wife. I mean, I know my wife had men in her life before me, but I wouldn't necessarily want her releasing any of her love letters to them to the public.

i think its pretty shallow. its not like he's still singing "oh beth".

I think it's super lame as well, but to each their own. I guess it comes down to how comfortable you are in your current relationship. It's a big leap to assume that this has more to do with Ed and his current wife, and less to do with Ed and inner Ed.

I highly doubt that either Ed or his wife are gonna be sitting down and listening to this live show, ever. So why care?

I have no idea of the details of what went down with Ed and Beth... maybe these are just digs at her

broken iris wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

dprival78 wrote:all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.

shoulda said "beth and i"

You could probably make a decent youtube clip series of grammatically corrected rock songs.

"I wish I were a neutron bomb..."

Farmer John wrote:

broken iris wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

dprival78 wrote:all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.

shoulda said "beth and i"

You could probably make a decent youtube clip series of grammatically corrected rock songs.

"I wish I were a neutron bomb..."

wait, it's not "a new blonde mom"?

broken iris wrote:Not to get off topic, but would anyone have disliked it if the band hand spliced in the missing part of PM,PM from an audience recording?

No, I have a Bob Marley release and the liner notes admit to having to do that and is the reason by a loss in audio quality. Just be upfront and truthful about things and it (and most things) are not an issue.

it might have bothered me. I didn't like it when that happened on those Meadowlands shows from the 06 tour. But maybe that's just me.

i would not have had a strong dislike of it, at any rate.

There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

which is lame

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

warehouse wrote:

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

which is lame

I understand him...wish there was someone from the old days to tell us again, what happened....but we cant talk about it right?

McParadigm wrote:

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

and thus were the recordings altered.

VinylGuy wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

which is lame

I understand him...wish there was someone from the old days to tell us again, what happened....but we cant talk about it right?

she cheated on him

warehouse wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

which is lame

I understand him...wish there was someone from the old days to tell us again, what happened....but we cant talk about it right?

she cheated on him

kinda early to be drunk, pal

warehouse wrote:kinda early to be drunk, pal

kinda late to still be sober, building where people store things for indeterminate lengths of time

Someone save me some reading. What did they hack out of this boot?

B wrote:Someone save me some reading. What did they hack out of this boot?

1st part of PM,PM, and all of YL.

warehouse wrote:

Thurman Murman wrote:There's just no way that Ed and his wife sit around listening to Pearl Jam shows.

I'd say its more likely that the girl really hurt Ed, and misguided or not he wanted to remove the memory of her from that recording.

which is lame

Agreed. Whether the above is the case or if it were done with an intention not to hurt the feelings of Ed's current wife, neither scenario is terribly complimentary to anyone involved.

When Ed sang her name in those songs, he effectively made it part of the performance. Regardless of which explanation for the removal is accurate, the end result is that the release is weakened by the omission. Not fatally, it's still enjoyable to listen to (and I'd prefer editing or deleting than whatever black magic they tried to work on that version of Oceans from Unplugged), but I think it's a legitimate complaint.

B wrote:Someone save me some reading. What did they hack out of this boot?

Lazy