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Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Tue April 12, 2022 10:40 pm
by scrub12
I’m pretty far. Just beat Niall. Game keeps getting harder but trying to stick with it.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Tue April 12, 2022 11:03 pm
by tree_
scrub12 wrote:I’m pretty far. Just beat Niall. Game keeps getting harder but trying to stick with it.
How many hours are you in now?

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 6:22 am
by scrub12
tree_ wrote:
scrub12 wrote:I’m pretty far. Just beat Niall. Game keeps getting harder but trying to stick with it.
How many hours are you in now?
About 60 I think at level 117.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 12:00 pm
by mf
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:
scrub12 wrote:I’m pretty far. Just beat Niall. Game keeps getting harder but trying to stick with it.
How many hours are you in now?
About 60 I think at level 117.
Damn, i'm about 80 hrs in and lvl 80 as well i believe. Are you rune farming to get levelled that high, or did you just git gud? I've never been able to git gud, best i can do is mediocre and cheese my way through bosses i'm not gud enough to beat normally :oops: :lol:

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 2:18 pm
by scrub12
mf wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:
scrub12 wrote:I’m pretty far. Just beat Niall. Game keeps getting harder but trying to stick with it.
How many hours are you in now?
About 60 I think at level 117.
Damn, i'm about 80 hrs in and lvl 80 as well i believe. Are you rune farming to get levelled that high, or did you just git gud? I've never been able to git gud, best i can do is mediocre and cheese my way through bosses i'm not gud enough to beat normally :oops: :lol:
It might have to do with where I am. Further in the game, the guys you kill give you a lot more runes so you can level up, plus I take advantage of the golden runes and lord runes to level up whenever I can. Those are huge.

I was stuck in the 90’s for a while then I beat Rykard, who was annoying as shit, and went on a rampage to kill some big dragons who give you a ton of runes when you kill them.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 2:56 pm
by mf
scrub12 wrote:
mf wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:
scrub12 wrote:I’m pretty far. Just beat Niall. Game keeps getting harder but trying to stick with it.
How many hours are you in now?
About 60 I think at level 117.
Damn, i'm about 80 hrs in and lvl 80 as well i believe. Are you rune farming to get levelled that high, or did you just git gud? I've never been able to git gud, best i can do is mediocre and cheese my way through bosses i'm not gud enough to beat normally :oops: :lol:
It might have to do with where I am. Further in the game, the guys you kill give you a lot more runes so you can level up, plus I take advantage of the golden runes and lord runes to level up whenever I can. Those are huge.

I was stuck in the 90’s for a while then I beat Rykard, who was annoying as shit, and went on a rampage to kill some big dragons who give you a ton of runes when you kill them.
That's good to know. I think I had been hanging out in lower levels for too long exploring so I wasn't getting enough runes to level frequently.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 3:11 pm
by scrub12
There’s an early game rune farming spot in Dragonbarrow, which is North Caelid, but beyond that I couldn't find any spots to cheese.

I will say…
Spoiler: show
the underground areas are great because the enemies down there are typically worth more runes

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 4:08 pm
by mf
scrub12 wrote:There’s an early game rune farming spot in Dragonbarrow, which is North Caelid, but beyond that I couldn't find any spots to cheese.

I will say…
Spoiler: show
the underground areas are great because the enemies down there are typically worth more runes
That dragonbarrow spot is great - especially with the golden scarab talisman equipped.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Wed April 13, 2022 4:13 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I hit up that farming spot everytime I have a bunch of runes, but not quite enough to level up. It's an easy way to get what I need. I'm level 55 in 20 hours of playtime.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 1:49 am
by tree_
65 hrs, level 73

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:42 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Just found out you can upgrade your Spirit Ashes from a random Youtube thumbnail. I'm all about mystery and world building in games, but why do this genre make these valuable systems so opaque?

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:43 pm
by tree_
That's part of the charm!

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:44 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:That's part of the charm!
"charm"

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:49 pm
by tree_
The entire philosophy of the game is for you to just figure shit out on your own. That definitely adds to the experience for me. I think so many people complain about this because they're used to games holding their hands .

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:54 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:The entire philosophy of the game is for you to just figure shit out on your own. That definitely adds to the experience for me. I think so many people complain about this because they're used to games holding their hands .
Stumble across an NPC, have a mysterious conversation, find a random item hidden on a rooftop, go back to the NPC, go to another location, go back to the NPC... That's being complicated just to be complicated.

This game takes the philosophy to an extreme. The developers need to respect the player's time as much as well as their intelligence to figure things out.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:56 pm
by tree_
I like that there is a game like this that makes such bold choices. If you don't have time, don't play it.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 6:59 pm
by Monkey_Driven
tree_ wrote:I like that there is a game like this that makes such bold choices. If you don't have time, don't play it.
Careful, you're turning into one of those "soulsborne fans".

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 7:03 pm
by tree_
I'm not a sycophant. I just am really getting tired of games telling me what to do all the time. It's like, why even play it at all? This is exactly the kind of game I needed. I understand why it's frustrating to you, but I like it.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 7:07 pm
by tree_
I also like the feeling that when I accomplish or discover something that it may a completely unique experience, and some people may never have found this, at least in this way.

Re: Souls-like Games - Dark Souls/Sekiro/Bloodborne/Elden Ri

Posted: Thu April 14, 2022 8:52 pm
by scrub12
Yeah I love that it doesn’t hold your hand at all. When you discover something, it feels incredible. I was playing Far Cry 6 before this and the shit on your map is so annoying and overwhelming. I was watching a friend play Horizon: Forbidden West and he was trying to solve a puzzle, and the main character basically told him where to look if it was taking too long. I hate that.

There are certainly things I looked up that felt important, but for the most part, it’s just been exploring and stumbling into stuff.