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Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:09 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:The thing is, most bands reach a point where art and ambition fade, while craft and technical control have benefited from years of effort. For whatever else the last two records were or weren't, they were never without artistic intention or ambitious hope. Mind Your Manners doesn't feel void of artistic focus or passion-fueled ambition, either, for what it's worth.
These two songs, sadly, sound 100% on the latter side of the musical spectrum....they produce a sense of a band full of acquired songwriting craft and experiential song construction capabilities, but without any greater artistic want or evident desire to reach just a little bit further out on that shaking limb.
Do.
Not.
Want.
That's MYM too imo. I appreciate it within that context.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:21 pm
by evenslow
McParadigm wrote:The thing is, most bands reach a point where art and ambition fade, while craft and technical control have benefited from years of effort. For whatever else the last two records were or weren't, they were never without artistic intention or ambitious hope. Mind Your Manners doesn't feel void of artistic focus or passion-fueled ambition, either, for what it's worth.
These two songs, sadly, sound 100% on the latter side of the musical spectrum....they produce a sense of a band full of acquired songwriting craft and experiential song construction capabilities, but without any greater artistic want or evident desire to reach just a little bit further out on that shaking limb.
Do.
Not.
Want.
Seems disingenuous to negatively compare this material to Backspacer of all things. "Guys, Backspacer was at least ambitious, but this stuff is where I draw the line."
I think we're a little early for the theorizing on how it all ties together and WHAT IT ALL MEANS.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:34 pm
by Birds in Hell
I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:37 pm
by ilpazzo
MUSICALLY... maybe even structurally.... I'm hearing mid-80's era Queen.
I don't know why... But that's what it's reminding me of... The good stuff at least...
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:43 pm
by jdopj
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:46 pm
by harmless
jdopj wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Absolutely not. Anyone who still thinks this is the same song needs their head read.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:48 pm
by Birds in Hell
harmless wrote:jdopj wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Absolutely not. Anyone who still thinks this is the same song needs their head read.
Clearly different songs.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:49 pm
by BurtReynolds
harmless wrote:jdopj wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Absolutely not. Anyone who still thinks this is the same song needs their head read.
I can't even start to understand how you can't hear the similarities.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:50 pm
by harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:harmless wrote:jdopj wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Absolutely not. Anyone who still thinks this is the same song needs their head read.
I can't even start to understand how you can't hear the similarities.
Really? I can't even start to understand how you can hear the similarities that I can't hear.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:53 pm
by BurtReynolds
i can practically sing the beginning of UK over LB. Then its "hey look at how epic and swelling this song is getting omg now we get louder and faster omgomgOMG!!!!11!!"
This is a better song though. and I dont mind aimless jams. and no rhinestones.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 10:55 pm
by harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:i can practically sing the beginning of UK over LB. Then its "hey look at how epic and swelling this song is getting omg now we get louder and faster omgomgOMG!!!!11!!"
This is a better song though. and I dont mind aimless jams. and no rhinestones.
If this is just the song that became better after UK's blueprint (like MYM is the song that became better after Comatose's blueprint) then I'm fine with that. For a long time I've seen Backspacer as an album of ideas rather than fully fleshed-out songs.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:11 pm
by BurtReynolds
harmless wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:i can practically sing the beginning of UK over LB. Then its "hey look at how epic and swelling this song is getting omg now we get louder and faster omgomgOMG!!!!11!!"
This is a better song though. and I dont mind aimless jams. and no rhinestones.
If this is just the song that became better after UK's blueprint (like MYM is the song that became better after Comatose's blueprint) then I'm fine with that. For a long time I've seen Backspacer as an album of ideas rather than fully fleshed-out songs.
Maybe. I dont know if BS was just ideas, or full songs mercilessly chopped down into quick snacks. Probably both. So far, this album seems free of those constraints.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:13 pm
by jdopj
BurtReynolds wrote:harmless wrote:jdopj wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Absolutely not. Anyone who still thinks this is the same song needs their head read.
I can't even start to understand how you can't hear the similarities.
Wouldn't know if there are similarities, haven't heard the sound check song. That's why I was asking.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:14 pm
by harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:harmless wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:i can practically sing the beginning of UK over LB. Then its "hey look at how epic and swelling this song is getting omg now we get louder and faster omgomgOMG!!!!11!!"
This is a better song though. and I dont mind aimless jams. and no rhinestones.
If this is just the song that became better after UK's blueprint (like MYM is the song that became better after Comatose's blueprint) then I'm fine with that. For a long time I've seen Backspacer as an album of ideas rather than fully fleshed-out songs.
Maybe. I dont know if BS was just ideas, or full songs mercilessly chopped down into quick snacks. Probably both. So far, this album seems free of those constraints.
That might be enough for me to like it. We'll see.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:14 pm
by BurtReynolds
jdopj wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:harmless wrote:jdopj wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:I'm warming to this one, I really dig the chorus and the latter half of the song.
Curious to hear what they did with it in the studio.
Lightning boooooolt!
This does not remind me of UK. Really liking this. Agree with Spenno, chorus is starting to stick in my head.
So this is not the sound check song from London?
Absolutely not. Anyone who still thinks this is the same song needs their head read.
I can't even start to understand how you can't hear the similarities.
Wouldn't know if there are similarities, haven't heard the sound check song. That's why I was asking.
oh shit sorry. I thought we were talking about LB and Unthought Known. I... I can't read.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:42 pm
by injuddstree
Why is Ed still insisting on using the worst dull tone guitar on the planet?
Makes no sense.
Use the 2000 tour Schecter ffs.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:53 pm
by Thejambi
If there was a poll this song would have jumped from a 2 to a 3 from last night to now.
The better recording have helped.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:54 pm
by Farmer John
Does anyone want to do me a favour and post the best quality YouTube video of this song?
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:56 pm
by injuddstree
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 11:57 pm
by Farmer John
Thanks!