The most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career - RESULTS

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[wease]

as much as I hate bitchy threads like this, I'd be reluctant to include anything said/done in the heat of the moment during a live show. Over the course of 30+ years where every single live utterance is archived forever you're going to have a moment when you are not your best self. That there are so few is remarkable, and those strike me as something different than actions taken with sober and deliberate intent (though even then in many of these cases we don't know the full story).

I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist, but a lot of this is my work/professional life bleeding into this thread. I spend a huge chunk of every day addressing faculty complaints about administration that have only the most superficial understanding of the nuances and data behind decisions and policies that govern what we do, and student complaints about faculty choices that are often informed by a rush to judgement. Plus my academic background in political science is more of the same. The same rush to judgement and moral posturing without a full understanding of the complexity behind why choices are made.

And so I always suspect the actual rationale behind some of the things we complain about have a lot more behind them. Enough that I am generally comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt until we actually know more (which we usually don't).

None of this—and I mean NONE OF THIS—excuses the late-era change to the Corduroy bridge.

Hear, hear!

[Simple Torture]

I think I remember reading that

Don't take my word for it

I regularly have your RM posts notarized so

“Not this fucking guy again.” -the notary at trag’s public library, I assume

[Farmer John]

as much as I hate bitchy threads like this, I'd be reluctant to include anything said/done in the heat of the moment during a live show. Over the course of 30+ years where every single live utterance is archived forever you're going to have a moment when you are not your best self. That there are so few is remarkable, and those strike me as something different than actions taken with sober and deliberate intent (though even then in many of these cases we don't know the full story).

I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist, but a lot of this is my work/professional life bleeding into this thread. I spend a huge chunk of every day addressing faculty complaints about administration that have only the most superficial understanding of the nuances and data behind decisions and policies that govern what we do, and student complaints about faculty choices that are often informed by a rush to judgement. Plus my academic background in political science is more of the same. The same rush to judgement and moral posturing without a full understanding of the complexity behind why choices are made.

And so I always suspect the actual rationale behind some of the things we complain about have a lot more behind them. Enough that I am generally comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt until we actually know more (which we usually don't).

None of this—and I mean NONE OF THIS—excuses the late-era change to the Corduroy bridge.

Hear, hear!

YEAH YEAH Yeah

[Bammer]

It appears we can break this tournament up into 4 general bracket categories

1. Recordings
2. Live performances
3. Political/charitable/personnel/other “moves”
4. PRAMG

[BurtReynolds]

1. Songs
2. Personal traits
3. Selling out
4. Ticket prices

[Farmer John]

5. Hats

[Bammer]

Actually nevermind. That seems more complicated than adding a Travel subforum to RM.

[96583UP]

Also rans:

- Merch: prices / black tshirts / merch lines and yet Ed was Mr Fugazi fanboi (See: “Merchandise”)

- Dave A: Firing him, Not including him in Hall of Fame, pretending he does not exist

- Boom: Presence of, Skill level of, Physical appearance of, Odor

- 10C Singles: Being years late sending them, then printing the wrong year on one

- Every promo pic, ever

- Encores: Volume of covers, Volume of Special Guests

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[LetMeSleep]

Pretty much erasing all Daves from PJ20 was pretty embarrassing. It wouldn't have taken much to have mentioned both, maybe 20 secs each.

[blueviper]

This thread.

[liebzz]

Funko Pops? Pearl Jam dolls have to be embarrassing right?

[dad]

yes, definitely…

dolls

[wease]

Yeah excluding Dave from HOF ranks fairly high

I change my vote

[LetMeSleep]

Yeah excluding Dave from HOF ranks fairly high

I change my vote

TBF I think this was out of their hands.

[oneway23]

Huge Dave A. mark as an impressionable youngin', but, the time period between Kennedy & Clinton in the White House is equivalent to the amount of time it's been since Dave A. was in this shitshow of a band.
Fuck Dave A. already

[Birds in Hell]

Yeah excluding Dave from HOF ranks fairly high

I change my vote

TBF I think this was out of their hands.

This is surely a cop out: somehow The Cure managed to include every man and his dog who’d ever come near the band, and though Chad Channing wasn’t inducted with Nirvana, I believe they paid for him to attend and made sure he felt included.

I find it hard to believe Pearl Jam didn’t have some levers to pull if they wanted do.

[Simple Torture]

I honestly wasn't sure about this, so I crunched some numbers:

Dave A was in the band from August 1991 to August 1994, that is, for 3 years and approximately 300 shows (give or take).

Boom has been with the band since November of 2002 (probably not "in the band," even though he's been credited on every album since then, I'm pretty sure), which is 21+ years, and he's played about 520 shows.

[stip]

did Boom get inducted? If not, WTF?