Re: The single most embarrassing thing from PJ’s career
Posted: Tue March 05, 2024 11:00 pm
Hear, hear!Simple Torture wrote:None of this—and I mean NONE OF THIS—excuses the late-era change to the Corduroy bridge.stip wrote:as much as I hate bitchy threads like this, I'd be reluctant to include anything said/done in the heat of the moment during a live show. Over the course of 30+ years where every single live utterance is archived forever you're going to have a moment when you are not your best self. That there are so few is remarkable, and those strike me as something different than actions taken with sober and deliberate intent (though even then in many of these cases we don't know the full story).
I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist, but a lot of this is my work/professional life bleeding into this thread. I spend a huge chunk of every day addressing faculty complaints about administration that have only the most superficial understanding of the nuances and data behind decisions and policies that govern what we do, and student complaints about faculty choices that are often informed by a rush to judgement. Plus my academic background in political science is more of the same. The same rush to judgement and moral posturing without a full understanding of the complexity behind why choices are made.
And so I always suspect the actual rationale behind some of the things we complain about have a lot more behind them. Enough that I am generally comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt until we actually know more (which we usually don't).
“Not this fucking guy again.” -the notary at trag’s public library, I assumetragabigzanda wrote:I regularly have your RM posts notarized soJorge wrote:I think I remember reading that
Don't take my word for it
YEAH YEAH Yeahwease wrote:Hear, hear!Simple Torture wrote:None of this—and I mean NONE OF THIS—excuses the late-era change to the Corduroy bridge.stip wrote:as much as I hate bitchy threads like this, I'd be reluctant to include anything said/done in the heat of the moment during a live show. Over the course of 30+ years where every single live utterance is archived forever you're going to have a moment when you are not your best self. That there are so few is remarkable, and those strike me as something different than actions taken with sober and deliberate intent (though even then in many of these cases we don't know the full story).
I'm sure I have a reputation for being an apologist, but a lot of this is my work/professional life bleeding into this thread. I spend a huge chunk of every day addressing faculty complaints about administration that have only the most superficial understanding of the nuances and data behind decisions and policies that govern what we do, and student complaints about faculty choices that are often informed by a rush to judgement. Plus my academic background in political science is more of the same. The same rush to judgement and moral posturing without a full understanding of the complexity behind why choices are made.
And so I always suspect the actual rationale behind some of the things we complain about have a lot more behind them. Enough that I am generally comfortable giving the benefit of the doubt until we actually know more (which we usually don't).
Chris_H_2 wrote:dolls
I change my votetragabigzanda wrote:Yeah excluding Dave from HOF ranks fairly high
TBF I think this was out of their hands.wease wrote:I change my votetragabigzanda wrote:Yeah excluding Dave from HOF ranks fairly high
This is surely a cop out: somehow The Cure managed to include every man and his dog who’d ever come near the band, and though Chad Channing wasn’t inducted with Nirvana, I believe they paid for him to attend and made sure he felt included.LetMeSleep wrote:TBF I think this was out of their hands.wease wrote:I change my votetragabigzanda wrote:Yeah excluding Dave from HOF ranks fairly high