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Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:40 pm
by harmless
I've never been a bro. I don't know what it means to be a bro, I just know that I fucking hate bros.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:41 pm
by stip
I was introduced to the phrase 'first world problems' last year. It really helps me understand a lot of what happens in these threads.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:42 pm
by Norah
stip wrote:I was introduced to the phrase 'first world problems' last year.
I can't decide if this belongs in the most stip posts thread or not.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:44 pm
by stip
how many years behind was I on that one? I remember thinking 'this thing is gonna change my life!'

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:44 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:Ed was already pissed off so it was fine.

No, that's not what he said. That's what YOU said, because for whatever Harmless reason you have you will currently feel better if Eddie is a raging misogynist. He said that Eddie was in a bad mood, and pretty clearly implied that a person who is not normally/naturally a dick is more likely to be a dick when they are in a bad mood. Which is the case for, you know, most people.
I don't give a fuck if Ed is a raging misogynist, although it's definitely not without the ballpark of reason. However, I believe that the rant he gave that night was absolutely full of raging misogyny. Whether that makes him one now is anyone's guess, but I'm not ruling it out just because I happen to like the band's music..
I guess this makes sense. Your initial response to that awesome Batman San Francisco thing for the kid with cancer was that it was just a way for people without cancer to feel good about themselves. So it stands to reason that one obnoxious drunken rant over a 20+ year career negates a life of supporting woman's issues.
It doesn't negate a life of supporting women's issues. But for me, it does throw their sincerity into question, as do a lot of anger fits that Ed's been responsible for.

As for the cancer thing, I didn't say it was *just* that. What I started with was that I was happy that it had happened, for the kids' sake. I'm just aware of what the media ultimately makes of these things. People with various disabilities and diseases are made archetypes for the betterment of the lives of able people. It was always thus, and it's fine. But, you know, context. I have a lot of it to go on.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:44 pm
by Norah
stip wrote:how many years behind was I on that one? I remember thinking 'this thing is gonna change my life!'
Quite a few.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 12:47 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:I was introduced to the phrase 'first world problems' last year. It really helps me understand a lot of what happens in these threads.
"First world problems" according to what I've read lately on the Internet = "stuff I have the privilege of not having to think about."

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:01 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:Ed was already pissed off so it was fine.

No, that's not what he said. That's what YOU said, because for whatever Harmless reason you have you will currently feel better if Eddie is a raging misogynist. He said that Eddie was in a bad mood, and pretty clearly implied that a person who is not normally/naturally a dick is more likely to be a dick when they are in a bad mood. Which is the case for, you know, most people.
I don't give a fuck if Ed is a raging misogynist, although it's definitely not without the ballpark of reason. However, I believe that the rant he gave that night was absolutely full of raging misogyny. Whether that makes him one now is anyone's guess, but I'm not ruling it out just because I happen to like the band's music..
I guess this makes sense. Your initial response to that awesome Batman San Francisco thing for the kid with cancer was that it was just a way for people without cancer to feel good about themselves. So it stands to reason that one obnoxious drunken rant over a 20+ year career negates a life of supporting woman's issues.
It doesn't negate a life of supporting women's issues. But for me, it does throw their sincerity into question, as do a lot of anger fits that Ed's been responsible for.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:05 pm
by harmless
Yes, because statement A inevitably leads to conclusion B.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:07 pm
by stip
I wonder if Eddie is punching a cat right now.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:09 pm
by harmless
"Better the occasional faults of Eddie Vedder who lives in a spirit of charity than the constant omission of Bono, frozen in the ice of his own indifference."

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:09 pm
by stip
The definition of First World Problems should be having the luxury of being offended by Bono drawing attention to African issues.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:12 pm
by harmless
To and fro, the pendulum throws.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:13 pm
by Jorge
Stip, "first world problems" was one of those terribly hacky things that fundamentally unfunny people obsessed over for a period of a few months before they gasped in horror at the blandness of their existence. Like Bitstrips, or the show How I Met Your Mother.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:14 pm
by Norah
A few years ago I used that term at work and the most insufferable person in the newsroom thought it was the funniest thing ever. It was then I knew what I had done.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:15 pm
by stip
I have to spend all day reading and talking about all the ways our society is collapsing, so it was a great phrase for me to put the stupid shit people whine about into context.

I probably would have it if I was there when it was everywhere.

What is bitstrips?

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:16 pm
by Norah
Bitstrips, I can say with no hyperbole, is the worst thing I have ever done.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:17 pm
by Lament
stip wrote:What is bitstrips?
The manboob/boytit version of titstrips, obviously.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:18 pm
by Jorge
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bitstrips, I can say with no hyperbole, is the worst thing I have ever done.
No, you've done worse things.

Re: Post All The Times Ed's Been a Dick

Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 1:18 pm
by Norah
theplatypus wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bitstrips, I can say with no hyperbole, is the worst thing I have ever done.
No, you've done worse things.
Nope.