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Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 2:55 am
by Jorge
They should release the Jeff demo of "Other Side". The one he said sounded "creepy".
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 3:03 am
by Birds in Hell
theplatypus wrote:They should release the Jeff demo of "Other Side". The one he said sounded "creepy".
I don't know if it's the original demo, but they did give away a CD at PJ20 containing a version of Other Side with Jeff on vocals. I wouldn't say it sounds creepy, though.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 3:04 am
by VinylGuy
theplatypus wrote:They should release the Jeff demo of "Other Side". The one he said sounded "creepy".
its out there...he released it a few years ago, with the first song from his last solo album.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 9:57 am
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:theplatypus wrote:They should release the Jeff demo of "Other Side". The one he said sounded "creepy".
I don't know if it's the original demo, but they did give away a CD at PJ20 containing a version of Other Side with Jeff on vocals. I wouldn't say it sounds creepy, though.
i didn't know that existed
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 10:22 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:theplatypus wrote:They should release the Jeff demo of "Other Side". The one he said sounded "creepy".
I don't know if it's the original demo, but they did give away a CD at PJ20 containing a version of Other Side with Jeff on vocals. I wouldn't say it sounds creepy, though.
i didn't know that existed
http://www.mediafire.com/?8xcw6ljdjf0khz9
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 11:05 am
by Birds in Hell
Birds in Hell wrote:In the wake of the two new (old) songs leaking, I've been inspired to work on a retracking of Riot Act that encompasses the three officially released b-sides from the sessions (Down, Undone, Other Side.)
It made me realise both that I like all of the songs from the record a whole lot more than I often realise (not that I ever thought they were bad, mind you) and how much I don't really care for the flow of the official tracklisting.
It hasn't been an easy task, I'm currently on my fourth (and hopefully final) revision. Once I've given this one a few spins I'll decide whether it's as good as I think it can be or if it needs some further alteration.
Such a great, creative session for the band; directionless in the most pleasant way.
1. Arc
2. Love Boat Captain
3. Half Full
4. Save You
5. Cropduster
6. Down
7. Ghost
8. I Am Mine
9. Thumbing My Way
10. Green Disease
11. Can't Keep
12. Help Help
13. Get Right
14. Other Side
15. You Are
16. Undone
17. Bushleaguer
18. All or None
Much better.
If you want to try this at home, I strongly recommend using the original b-side versions of Down, Undone and Other Side. I can't recall all of the differences but Down certainly has some new guitar work and the original mixes fit more comfortably with the sonic character of the other Riot Act material.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 11:19 am
by sward
Birds in Hell wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:In the wake of the two new (old) songs leaking, I've been inspired to work on a retracking of Riot Act that encompasses the three officially released b-sides from the sessions (Down, Undone, Other Side.)
It made me realise both that I like all of the songs from the record a whole lot more than I often realise (not that I ever thought they were bad, mind you) and how much I don't really care for the flow of the official tracklisting.
It hasn't been an easy task, I'm currently on my fourth (and hopefully final) revision. Once I've given this one a few spins I'll decide whether it's as good as I think it can be or if it needs some further alteration.
Such a great, creative session for the band; directionless in the most pleasant way.
1. Arc
2. Love Boat Captain
3. Half Full
4. Save You
5. Cropduster
6. Down
7. Ghost
8. I Am Mine
9. Thumbing My Way
10. Green Disease
11. Can't Keep
12. Help Help
13. Get Right
14. Other Side
15. You Are
16. Undone
17. Bushleaguer
18. All or None
Much better.
If you want to try this at home, I strongly recommend using the original b-side versions of Down, Undone and Other Side. I can't recall all of the differences but Down certainly has some new guitar work and the original mixes fit more comfortably with the sonic character of the other Riot Act material.
Wow. When you add in the B-Sides, it makes the album much more full (and not in a numbers way!). Very cool. Thanks for posting. Kind of rekindled my desire to go back and listen to Riot Act. At one time, it was my least favorite PJ album and over numerous revisits has moved into the upper half!
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 11:53 am
by stip
I don't remember down having more stuff on lost dogs. I'll have to listen for that. I prefer the ld version of undone but I have never thought about it for retracting purposes
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 11:59 am
by WaitingForBluey
Where is there a b-side version of Undone? That wasn't released until LD.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:07 pm
by Angus
bluestate wrote:Where is there a b-side version of Undone? That wasn't released until LD.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:11 pm
by Birds in Hell
bluestate wrote:Where is there a b-side version of Undone? That wasn't released until LD.
Nope, it was released as a b-side to I Am Mine internationally (Australia, UK, Europe).
There's clear differences between the original version and the later remix on Lost Dogs.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:39 pm
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:bluestate wrote:Where is there a b-side version of Undone? That wasn't released until LD.
Nope, it was released as a b-side to I Am Mine internationally (Australia, UK, Europe).
There's clear differences between the original version and the later remix on Lost Dogs.
The original version is more stripped down. A lot more flourishes in the ld version
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:40 pm
by EJ
Birds in Hell wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:In the wake of the two new (old) songs leaking, I've been inspired to work on a retracking of Riot Act that encompasses the three officially released b-sides from the sessions (Down, Undone, Other Side.)
It made me realise both that I like all of the songs from the record a whole lot more than I often realise (not that I ever thought they were bad, mind you) and how much I don't really care for the flow of the official tracklisting.
It hasn't been an easy task, I'm currently on my fourth (and hopefully final) revision. Once I've given this one a few spins I'll decide whether it's as good as I think it can be or if it needs some further alteration.
Such a great, creative session for the band; directionless in the most pleasant way.
1. Arc
2. Love Boat Captain
3. Half Full
4. Save You
5. Cropduster
6. Down
7. Ghost
8. I Am Mine
9. Thumbing My Way
10. Green Disease
11. Can't Keep
12. Help Help
13. Get Right
14. Other Side
15. You Are
16. Undone
17. Bushleaguer
18. All or None
Much better.
If you want to try this at home, I strongly recommend using the original b-side versions of Down, Undone and Other Side. I can't recall all of the differences but Down certainly has some new guitar work and the original mixes fit more comfortably with the sonic character of the other Riot Act material.
Interesting, will try this. I have not listened to RA in a long time. Striking to see Cant Keep buried in the middle. I assume those b-side versions are on gremmie?
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:41 pm
by Birds in Hell
I have no idea, I'm not a fan of that guy's site at all.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:51 pm
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:In the wake of the two new (old) songs leaking, I've been inspired to work on a retracking of Riot Act that encompasses the three officially released b-sides from the sessions (Down, Undone, Other Side.)
It made me realise both that I like all of the songs from the record a whole lot more than I often realise (not that I ever thought they were bad, mind you) and how much I don't really care for the flow of the official tracklisting.
It hasn't been an easy task, I'm currently on my fourth (and hopefully final) revision. Once I've given this one a few spins I'll decide whether it's as good as I think it can be or if it needs some further alteration.
Such a great, creative session for the band; directionless in the most pleasant way.
1. Arc
2. Love Boat Captain
3. Half Full
4. Save You
5. Cropduster
6. Down
7. Ghost
8. I Am Mine
9. Thumbing My Way
10. Green Disease
11. Can't Keep
12. Help Help
13. Get Right
14. Other Side
15. You Are
16. Undone
17. Bushleaguer
18. All or None
Much better.
If you want to try this at home, I strongly recommend using the original b-side versions of Down, Undone and Other Side. I can't recall all of the differences but Down certainly has some new guitar work and the original mixes fit more comfortably with the sonic character of the other Riot Act material.
Some nice transitions in here. I like other side to you are to undone in particular
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:54 pm
by stip
Having said that riot act was already an overlong album to me, with a few too many mediocre songs. I'd rather see it smaller and have the b-sides replace weaker tracks. 18 songs would be exhausting for me
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:54 pm
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:Some nice transitions in here. I like other side to you are to undone in particular
That's one of my favourite runs too.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:57 pm
by bada
Gonna try this mix. Of course it means I'll have to listen to Bushleaguer but I guess I can bite the bullet.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:57 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Angus wrote:bluestate wrote:Where is there a b-side version of Undone? That wasn't released until LD.
Woah! I never knew this existed. My version of I Am Mine obviously has Down. I had no idea there was another version of Undone. One of my favorite songs from LD so I'll have to track this down.
Re: Riot Act: Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri July 26, 2013 12:58 pm
by Thejambi
bada wrote:Gonna try this mix. Of course it means I'll have to listen to Bushleaguer but I guess I can bite the bullet.
If they had gone in a different direction with the spoken word segments this could have been a top 25 song.