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Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 6:57 pm
by Peeps
Strat wrote:
According to the documents, Brown roughly handled a clerk trying to stop him before walking out of the store with the box of Swisher Sweets.
lol

which disturbs me so much because the parents were going on about what a good kid they had and didnt ever do nothing wrong

if i was shot i am sure my mom would have said sure he could be an asshole and a smart mouth....

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:01 pm
by Norah
Peeps wrote:
Strat wrote:
According to the documents, Brown roughly handled a clerk trying to stop him before walking out of the store with the box of Swisher Sweets.
lol

which disturbs me so much because the parents were going on about what a good kid they had and didnt ever do nothing wrong

if i was shot i am sure my mom would have said sure he could be an asshole and a smart mouth....
At the end of the day, that doesn't matter though. The kid could be an angel or a prick, he could be guilty of theft or innocent. Either way the police had no business shooting him.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:04 pm
by Strat

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:16 pm
by Peeps
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Peeps wrote:
Strat wrote:
According to the documents, Brown roughly handled a clerk trying to stop him before walking out of the store with the box of Swisher Sweets.
lol

which disturbs me so much because the parents were going on about what a good kid they had and didnt ever do nothing wrong

if i was shot i am sure my mom would have said sure he could be an asshole and a smart mouth....
At the end of the day, that doesn't matter though. The kid could be an angel or a prick, he could be guilty of theft or innocent. Either way the police had no business shooting him.
depends on the circumstances. im not ready to take the witness at face value nor the police

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:16 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
Strat wrote:http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/08/15/bts-nixon-presser-michael-brown-shooting.cnn.html
Someone's not interested in reelection...

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:17 pm
by Alex
PEEPS JUSTICE is the future of due process. let's just get used to it.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:18 pm
by Strat
Alex wrote:PEEPS JUSTICE is the future of due process. let's just get used to it.

al

I think peeps hates black people

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:18 pm
by Strat
They used to eat all his chicken wings

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:21 pm
by Kaius
It's getting tense in here

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:25 pm
by broken iris
Peeps wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Also, the robbery happened hours earlier, right?

im not sure. at this point i dont know if i would believe the official time line or not. how could it take almost a week to say, they were stopped as part of an investigation
It might be because they wanted to do a thorough job, knowing full-well how the Internet reacted to the police investigation in the Trayvon Martin case.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:26 pm
by Strat
broken iris wrote:
Peeps wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Also, the robbery happened hours earlier, right?

im not sure. at this point i dont know if i would believe the official time line or not. how could it take almost a week to say, they were stopped as part of an investigation
It might be because they wanted to do a thorough job, knowing full-well how the Internet reacted to the police investigation in the Trayvon Martin case.

I dont know. That is a really important part of the story and timeline. it is also something that didnt need to be 'looked into"

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:29 pm
by McParadigm
The way it looks from the outside is basically "We don't need to justify ourselves to you." Like it never really occured to them to even try explaining anything about the case, because fuck you, stop rioting, go home (open fire).

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:39 pm
by broken iris
McParadigm wrote:The way it looks from the outside is basically "We don't need to justify ourselves to you." Like it never really occured to them to even try explaining anything about the case, because fuck you, stop rioting, go home (open fire).
I agree, but on the flip side providing the information could appear somewhat like tacit approval for the rioting and looting because that behavior got results. The poor communication by police and government leaders is very much to blame for events that have marred community in the wake of the tragic shooting.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:51 pm
by Peeps
broken iris wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The way it looks from the outside is basically "We don't need to justify ourselves to you." Like it never really occured to them to even try explaining anything about the case, because fuck you, stop rioting, go home (open fire).
I agree, but on the flip side providing the information could appear somewhat like tacit approval for the rioting and looting because that behavior got results. The poor communication by police and government leaders is very much to blame for events that have marred community in the wake of the tragic shooting.

exactly, both sides are at fault for bad judgement.

his friend for claiming they were minding their own business and for everyone saying what a nice young peaceful lad brown was and the police just botched about every aspect of this. from not saying right away we are investigating all aspects to reacting in swat gear and tear gassing people in their own yards to the people looting and rioting over a perceived innocent dead

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:56 pm
by Peeps
so now Chief is saying brown wasnt stopped due to robbery

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:57 pm
by Norah
he was stopped, and shot, because he was black

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 7:59 pm
by Strat
geezes

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson told reporters Friday that "the initial contact between" Michael Brown and the police officer who fatally shot him was not related to the alleged convenience store robbery committed nearby a short time earlier.

The officer approached Brown not because of the robbery, but "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic," Jackson said.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 8:04 pm
by Peeps
cutuphalfdead wrote:he was stopped, and shot, because he was black

i am thinking there is more to the story than just that

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 8:06 pm
by Norah
Peeps wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:he was stopped, and shot, because he was black

i am thinking there is more to the story than just that
yeah, he probably mouthed off too. good riddance i say.

Re: Cops Are The Worst

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 8:13 pm
by McParadigm
Still seems like the kindest angle the authorities could hope to put on this situation is one in which the officer responded to an unarmed, pseudo-confrontational suspect in a petty little gum-thief robbery...one who had tried to get away from him and then stopped...by putting bullets in his head and chest. Still miles away from "well, I guess maybe that's understandable, right?"

I'm certainly open to the possibility that this is a crime more related to the insane modern police warrior culture (see: everything that's happened in that town since the murder) than race, though.