Red Mosquito

theplatypus wrote:Yeah you're right, no one ever debates Harmless

He was definitely never ridiculed to the point where he left the board for a few months.

turned2black wrote:You guys have really leapt to some pretty dramatic conclusions about Harry Lime in the last few pages of this thread. I find it pretty hilarious that RM jumps all over him at the drop of a hat, yet lets Harmless and other "veteran" RMers spew nonsense for days before calling them out.

Pssh. You just wanna have a beer with me at Copper Blues. Admit it.

Harry Lime wrote:

turned2black wrote:You guys have really leapt to some pretty dramatic conclusions about Harry Lime in the last few pages of this thread. I find it pretty hilarious that RM jumps all over him at the drop of a hat, yet lets Harmless and other "veteran" RMers spew nonsense for days before calling them out.

Pssh. You just wanna have a beer with me at Copper Blues. Admit it.

You'd never hang out with me, I'm part black.

turned2black wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:

turned2black wrote:You guys have really leapt to some pretty dramatic conclusions about Harry Lime in the last few pages of this thread. I find it pretty hilarious that RM jumps all over him at the drop of a hat, yet lets Harmless and other "veteran" RMers spew nonsense for days before calling them out.

Pssh. You just wanna have a beer with me at Copper Blues. Admit it.

You'd never hang out with me, I'm part black.

Well, yeah, you'll have to sit in the "other" section, but I'll raise my glass to you.

Hey look, I responded seriously to Harry and he ignored it entirely!

Harry Lime wrote:

turned2black wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:

turned2black wrote:You guys have really leapt to some pretty dramatic conclusions about Harry Lime in the last few pages of this thread. I find it pretty hilarious that RM jumps all over him at the drop of a hat, yet lets Harmless and other "veteran" RMers spew nonsense for days before calling them out.

Pssh. You just wanna have a beer with me at Copper Blues. Admit it.

You'd never hang out with me, I'm part black.

Well, yeah, you'll have to sit in the "other" section, but I'll raise my glass to you.

Well, this is Arizona.

@SkitchP wrote:Hey look, I responded seriously to Harry and he ignored it entirely!

I was waiting for other people to! I didn't want you directing it at me! You don't need to tell me! But I feel you spent too much time talking about the hoodie comment again.

@SkitchP wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:Skitch, since you said that you basically agree with Cuban, and you have the reason and mindset to look beyond his hoodie description, and see the bigger picture, can you please indulge us as to the reasons why you agree with him?

If you refuse, I'll understand. You'll be entering the lions den. But show some courage, eh?

There is some validity to the notion that we all have our prejudices. We do.

Lament?

Harry Lime wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

There is some validity to the notion that we all have our prejudices. We do.

Lament?

I say this without an ounce of prejudice or judgement. If there is anyone I have interacted with over the past ten years that doesn't, it may be Lament. I mean that sincerely.

What does all this have to do with sterling again? I forgot.

BurtReynolds wrote:What does all this have to do with sterling again? I forgot.

We're talking about Lament now. Stay on topic.

@SkitchP wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

There is some validity to the notion that we all have our prejudices. We do.

Lament?

I say this without an ounce of prejudice or judgement. If there is anyone I have interacted with over the past ten years that doesn't, it may be Lament. I mean that sincerely.

I was actually asking Lament to comment.

Harry Lime wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

There is some validity to the notion that we all have our prejudices. We do.

Lament?

I say this without an ounce of prejudice or judgement. If there is anyone I have interacted with over the past ten years that doesn't, it may be Lament. I mean that sincerely.

I was actually asking Lament to comment.

I know. But I occasionally like to go out of my way to profess my respect for him.

@SkitchP wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

There is some validity to the notion that we all have our prejudices. We do.

Lament?

I say this without an ounce of prejudice or judgement. If there is anyone I have interacted with over the past ten years that doesn't, it may be Lament. I mean that sincerely.

Thanks Skitch. That means a lot to me.

I don't have a problem with the notion that people have some prejudices within them that they deal with. But they have to DEAL with them. Saying "I'm going to walk on the other side of the street cause I'm scared of a black kid in a hoodie" isn't dealing with it. It's succumbing to it. If you are that willing to succumb to it, then you're obviously comfortable with it. If you are comfortable with your prejudices against an entire race, you're a racist. You've given in to fear and accepted a world where the onus is on someone you know absolutely nothing about to prove to you that he or she isn't a threat, and until they do that, they are. In the grand scheme of things, far more black kids in hoodies are NOT mugging people than are mugging them. You're more likely to get killed in a car crash than you are to get mugged by a black kid in a hoodie. Do any of the people who walk on the other side of the street take the same precautions to avoid getting into a car? Getting into a car is far more dangerous. Or is this "risk aversion" you spoke of earlier just another way to make yourself feel ok about how comfortable you are with your prejudices?

Lament wrote: Saying "I'm going to walk on the other side of the street cause I'm scared of a black kid in a hoodie" isn't dealing with it. It's succumbing to it.

this, right here should end the thread.

This pearl jam stickman tat on my cheek is starting to seem like a really bad idea.

BurtReynolds wrote:This pearl jam stickman tat on my cheek is starting to seem like a really bad idea.

Only if you were hoping to walk on the same side of the street as Mark Cuban.

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote: Saying "I'm going to walk on the other side of the street cause I'm scared of a black kid in a hoodie" isn't dealing with it. It's succumbing to it.

this, right here should end the thread.

Um, what I said before (and of course went unnoticed again), is that Cuban is not proud (and neither am I) of any prejudice, or insecurities we hold. His intentions are to get over them. He wants to do so through empathizing with racist thoughts, not sympathizing, in order to get to the root. I see this as a very Christian oriented philosophy. Is anyone here prejudice against Christians?

And that is the final say. Lament, T2B is right. You need to calm down.

Harry Lime wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote: Saying "I'm going to walk on the other side of the street cause I'm scared of a black kid in a hoodie" isn't dealing with it. It's succumbing to it.

this, right here should end the thread.

Um, what I said before (and of course went unnoticed again), is that Cuban is not proud (and neither am I) of any prejudice, or insecurities we hold. His intentions are to get over them. He wants to do so through empathizing with racist thoughts, not sympathizing, in order to get to the root. I see this as a very Christian oriented philosophy. Is anyone here prejudice against Christians?

And that is the final say. Lament, T2B is right. You need to calm down.

Because he legitimately cares about bigotry and those that treat people differently based exclusively on outward appearance and their own insecurities? I fail to see how HE is the one that needs to calm down. And up until today, i was the boards resident racist!

Oh, this is a Christian philosophy. Good thing no one has ever invoked Christianity to defend racism before.

Harry Lime wrote:His intentions are to get over them.

“If I see a black kid in a hoodie at night on the same side of the street, I’m probably going to walk to the other side of the street."

He didn't say "I might at first want to walk to the other side of the street." He didn't say "I used to want to walk to the other side of the street." He said "I'm probably going to walk to the other side of the street." He's ok with his prejudices on this level. If he were intending to get over them, at this point, some fifty or so years into his life, he should be able to stay on the same side of the street and realize that this kid is far more likely to just leave him completely alone than other outcome.