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Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:02 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Also, Serj Tankian's solo stuff is better than everything SOAD except maybe Toxicity

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:03 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best
You're fucking crazy.
No kidding. None of their albums are any good.
What the hell joey

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:05 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best
You're fucking crazy.
No kidding. None of their albums are any good.
What the hell joey
:lol:

Just a wee little joke in keeping with the tone of the day.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:05 pm
by stip
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best
You're fucking crazy.
He may be correct.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:06 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best
You're fucking crazy.
He may be correct.
Or it just may be a lunatic you'e... aw nevemind.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:06 pm
by Orpheus
If we're being honest, aren't most second albums better? I can actually think of very few cases where this is not true. Hence people listing approximately 1,000 albums in this thread. In my experience it is typically only nostalgia or cred-farming that makes people say the debut is the best. Almost every band peaks with their middle work before things get stale.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:06 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
stip wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best
You're fucking crazy.
He may be correct.
Oh big surprise

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
third albums that were better than the fourth. go.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:08 pm
by Lament
Orpheus wrote:If we're being honest, aren't most second albums better? I can actually think of very few cases where this is not true. Hence people listing approximately 1,000 albums in this thread. In my experience it is typically only nostalgia or cred-farming that makes people say the debut is the best. Almost every band peaks with their middle work before things get stale.
I'd say it's probably 50/50. I think a lot of bands struggle with the second album. A lot of times you'll find ones that have higher high points, but are far more inconsistent than the debuts.


For what it's worth, the third album seems to be where a stunning number of bands do their best work.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:09 pm
by BurtReynolds
Lament wrote:
Orpheus wrote:If we're being honest, aren't most second albums better? I can actually think of very few cases where this is not true. Hence people listing approximately 1,000 albums in this thread. In my experience it is typically only nostalgia or cred-farming that makes people say the debut is the best. Almost every band peaks with their middle work before things get stale.
I'd say it's probably 50/50. I think a lot of bands struggle with the second album. A lot of times you'll find ones that have higher high points, but are far more inconsistent than the debuts.


For what it's worth, the third album seems to be where a stunning number of bands do their best work.
yeah seems about 50/50

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:10 pm
by Kaius
Lament wrote:
Orpheus wrote:If we're being honest, aren't most second albums better? I can actually think of very few cases where this is not true. Hence people listing approximately 1,000 albums in this thread. In my experience it is typically only nostalgia or cred-farming that makes people say the debut is the best. Almost every band peaks with their middle work before things get stale.
I'd say it's probably 50/50. I think a lot of bands struggle with the second album. A lot of times you'll find ones that have higher high points, but are far more inconsistent than the debuts.


For what it's worth, the third album seems to be where a stunning number of bands do their best work.
It's like the third year for WRs

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:38 pm
by zeb
Lament wrote:Image
I enjoyed their first album cover but this one is probably better.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 11:52 pm
by epilogue
zeb wrote:
Lament wrote:Image
I enjoyed their first album cover but this one is probably better.
:lol:

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 12:03 am
by surfndestroy
The Band - The Band
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Blink-182 - Dude Ranch
Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning
Metallica- Ride The Lightning
Gaslight Anthem - '59 Sound

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 12:06 am
by LoathedVermin72
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best, but that is probably even more unpopular than what you said.
I concur.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 12:14 am
by bodysnatcher
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Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 12:18 am
by Jorge
Great call on Good Morning Spider and The Sophtware Slump

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 12:47 am
by BigRedLedbetter
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:So. Anyway. More:

-Alice in Chains - Dirt
-Antony and the Johnsons - I am a Bird Now
-Big Business - Here Come the Waterworks
-Bjork - Post
-Cavalera Conspiracy - Blunt Force Trauma
-Danzig - Danzig II: Lucifuge
-Dog Faced Hermans - Hum of Life
-Fuel - Something Like Human
-Killdozer - Snakeboy
-Only Living Witness - Innocents
-A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
-Placebo - Without You I'm Nothing
-Rage Against the Machine - Evil Empire (This is probably an unpopular opinion.)
-Weezer - Pinkerton
Definitely agree about Bjork. My opinion is that RATM's third album was their best, but that is probably even more unpopular than what you said.
I adore the battle of la....not sure about that though. I listen to that album a lot

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 1:32 am
by Bammer
cutuphalfdead wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Bammer wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Image
Well that took long enough. 3rd page.
It's literally in the first post.
I don't read posts.
Heh. I literally didn't read it.

Re: Second albums that were better than the debut

Posted: Fri August 15, 2014 3:15 am
by BigRedLedbetter
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