Matt is a beast with SG and I really like most of his studio work with PJ but he doesn't have the feel that Jack and the Daves had. Matt is a clock (usually, sometimes live that becomes a race) where as Jack was all feel. I felt Jack lacked some impact live.
As for Dave A, he's been a massive influence on my drumming. I wish I had the bounce and energy that guy has. He just lays down a groove and it just sits so right. Sure he hasn't got the abstract feels and tempo clock that Matt has but he's my fave PJ drummer. I'm sure he would have developed along with the band but you have to remember that he was a groove/funk guy playing in a rock band. Dave was always more RHCP than Nirvana/AIC.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 1:21 am
by darthvedder81
theplatypus wrote:Absolutely nothing wrong with traditional 1950s old-school Jamaican ska and its contemporary torch-carriers. The mid-to-late 90s ska-punk thing was gross and awful.
Ska is one of those genre's I'm so proud to say I never got on board with. When all my friends in 96-97 were jumping off grunge and into ska/pop-punk I was the weirdo still listening to Pearl Jam. For a while there it was the dominant form of guitar music if you wanted to be in a band. Blah. Many of them now realize what a stupid fad it was but I thought it blew from day one.
My actual response when they first started playing No Doubt on the local alt-rock station: What is this shit?
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 1:30 am
by Jorge
Yeah, that whole group of bands was so completely awful.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 1:43 am
by VinylGuy
darthvedder81 wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Absolutely nothing wrong with traditional 1950s old-school Jamaican ska and its contemporary torch-carriers. The mid-to-late 90s ska-punk thing was gross and awful.
Ska is one of those genre's I'm so proud to say I never got on board with. When all my friends in 96-97 were jumping off grunge and into ska/pop-punk I was the weirdo still listening to Pearl Jam. For a while there it was the dominant form of guitar music if you wanted to be in a band. Blah. Many of them now realize what a stupid fad it was but I thought it blew from day one.
My actual response when they first started playing No Doubt on the local alt-rock station: What is this shit?
I think i like some songs from those bands...Sublime, No Doubt; those guys right?
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 1:49 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:32 am
by Kevin Davis
darthvedder81 wrote:Ska is one of those genre's I'm so proud to say I never got on board with. When all my friends in 96-97 were jumping off grunge and into ska/pop-punk I was the weirdo still listening to Pearl Jam. For a while there it was the dominant form of guitar music if you wanted to be in a band. Blah. Many of them now realize what a stupid fad it was but I thought it blew from day one.
I empathize with this. I tried so hard to like Reel Big Fish, but it was a lost cause.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:48 am
by Norah
Kevin Davis wrote:
darthvedder81 wrote:Ska is one of those genre's I'm so proud to say I never got on board with. When all my friends in 96-97 were jumping off grunge and into ska/pop-punk I was the weirdo still listening to Pearl Jam. For a while there it was the dominant form of guitar music if you wanted to be in a band. Blah. Many of them now realize what a stupid fad it was but I thought it blew from day one.
I empathize with this. I tried so hard to like Reel Big Fish, but it was a lost cause.
I had a friend who always tried to push the Aquabats on me.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:52 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Whenever someone mentions Ska, it always makes me think the band that has someone playing a trumpet and a fat dude in a Hawaiian shirt and a pork pie hat. I'm not sure why.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:54 am
by darth_vedder
Can we get back on topic, and discuss how amazing Jack Irons is with Pearl Jam?
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:54 am
by Norah
Jack Irons should be rehired as the dude who dances on stage.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:58 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
cutuphalfdead wrote:Jack Irons should be rehired as the dude who dances on stage.
He'll have to wear a Hawaiian shirt. He's probably fat now anyway.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:59 am
by Norah
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Jack Irons should be rehired as the dude who dances on stage.
He'll have to wear a Hawaiian shirt. He's probably fat now anyway.
No, no, no. He has to wear a black suit, black tie, and sunglasses.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 2:59 am
by darth_vedder
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 3:03 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Jack Irons should be rehired as the dude who dances on stage.
He'll have to wear a Hawaiian shirt. He's probably fat now anyway.
No, no, no. He has to wear a black suit, black tie, and sunglasses.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Thu July 18, 2013 4:47 pm
by taffer
There's only one drummer i can see as MC replacement, its King Coffey
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 4:00 am
by rickson
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 4:01 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
rickson wrote:[YouTube]bYf0Ambx1Q[/YouTube]
I think you borked that one man. Maybe give it another go.
Re: Let the drummer debate continue!
Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 4:02 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
taffer wrote:
This is Matt Cameron when his space helmet fell off, Total Recall style, on Mars.