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Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 5:22 pm
by VinylGuy
i dont think is impossible...i mean, Joel Schumacher sent the franchise to death for a while...but yeah, i this moments of superheroes movies you know the movie is going to be a hit no matter what...they got a smashing success with SS and the movie sucks so...
I like Ben as Batman, he was great in BVS and im expecting a lot from him in JL. And this could go to a good place again if they hire a good director..but i agree with Joey, WB is doing stupid things these days.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 6:53 pm
by stip
They (WB) are putting a lot of faith in Geoff johns (I think that's his name) as their creative director and it will be interesting to see how that pans out. What works for comics may not work for movies - as mediums for storytelling they are very different
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:23 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:They (WB) are putting a lot of faith in Geoff johns (I think that's his name) as their creative director and it will be interesting to see how that pans out. What works for comics may not work for movies - as mediums for storytelling they are very different
This is exactly it. And so far, Geoff Johns is doing little to instill confidence. He may or may not be the primary problem. But at this point I do not trust him to "right the ship."
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:44 pm
by bada
It's really hard to know who the problem is unless you are really in the know with sources and crap. Even then they could have agendas. Is Geoff Johns over-matched in his new role? Is he getting overruled and the suits upstairs are the problem? Are these directors leaving because of unjustified studio interference? Is there interference justified because their takes are shit? Who knows. The momentum for bad press is so out of control know I don't know how they recover. The movies will still make money but they gotta figure out a way to switch up the DC is a mess narrative. You don't really get much in the way of negative leaks out of Marvel.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:48 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Critics and audiences are the problem. Everything was perfect until they voiced their dumbass opinions about BVS.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sat February 04, 2017 7:48 pm
by epilogue
The fact that the movies still make money is a big part of why DC/WB has made any huge changes.
If it was really about director's ideas being bad, they wouldn't hire these people. They are bringing in directors and those directors are pitching their ideas/takes. WB is clearly second-guessing or micromanaging those directors. Probably based on audience/critical response.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 2:30 am
by stip
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Critics and audiences are the problem. Everything was perfect until they voiced their dumbass opinions about BVS.
Everything was perfect until someone actually watched that movie.
- Spoiler: show
- except that fun warehouse fight
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 9:34 pm
by VinylGuy
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Critics and audiences are the problem. Everything was perfect until they voiced their dumbass opinions about BVS.
Agree.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
It was terrible before that!
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:04 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
BurtReynolds wrote:It was terrible before that!
who would you want to direct a film adaptation of scurry?
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:06 pm
by BurtReynolds
nm
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:09 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
BurtReynolds wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:It was terrible before that!
who would you want to direct a film adaptation of scurry?
Fincher
i was thinking harmony korine
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:10 pm
by BurtReynolds
nm
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:11 pm
by BurtReynolds
Fury Road>>>>BvS
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Sun February 05, 2017 10:11 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
BurtReynolds wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:It was terrible before that!
who would you want to direct a film adaptation of scurry?
Fincher
i was thinking harmony korine
Now you're just making up names.
gone rat
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:02 pm
by bune
stip wrote:yeah not wanting to have to write AND direct AND star is pretty understandable. it would really need to be a passion project to be worth that
It's something he's been talking about since Mallrats if you believe Kevin Smith.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 8:31 pm
by stip
That's probably the sort of thing you had to say to get Kevin Smith to cast you, though
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Thu February 09, 2017 5:57 pm
by Strat
Like with pretty much all of its DCEU movies, Warner Bros. isn’t having an easy time with The Batman. At the end of January, Ben Affleck decided he would not direct the superhero film, although he remains on board to star and produce. For months, Affleck said they were struggling to get the story right, and it looks like they never reached that point. Now Warner Bros. is throwing out the script as they look to hire a new director (Matt Reeves is reportedly the frontrunner at this point) to guide the creative vision of the film going forward.
According to Forbes:
How extensive the process will be — I’m hearing anything from “major rewrites” to “a completely new script,” including starting from scratch on the story if that’s what it takes — is unclear, not just to us but probably to those involved as well, since the new filmmaker might look at the story and script and decide there’s plenty to salvage that appeals to them. Once the director is in place, more will become clear, but for now Warner Bros. is suffering far more negative perceptions than they need to, simply because of the attempt to slow and control the spread of information.
Admittedly, the challenge in getting a new Batman script right is tough on multiple levels. For starters, the character has to be at least somewhat in line with where he leaves off in Justice League. While it looks like he will no longer be the murder-happy fascist we saw in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, we don’t know how he’ll be adjusted over the course of Zack Snyder’s latest outing with the character.
The other problem is that no one wants to do a rehash of other people’s interpretations. If you’re looking to make a crime drama that happens to feature Batman, you’re out of luck since Christopher Nolan pretty much already did that. That’s not to say there aren’t plenty of Batman stories to tell—there are!—but you want to come at it from a unique angle. Audiences are going to turn out for a new Batman film no matter what, but you want to make sure you’re not being compared unfavorably to what came before. Keep in mind that Warner Bros. isn’t looking at just one successful Batman movie. They’re looking at franchises, and if you don’t like the first solo Batman film, you’re unlikely to return for the sequels.
As for when this might end up hitting theaters, Forbes says it’s likely we’ll see The Batman in 2019 assuming Warner Bros. can stop tripping up. Another problem is how reactionary the studio has been every time one of its movies gets released. Man of Steel wasn’t a big enough success, so instead of a second solo Superman movie, we got Batman v Superman. Batman v Superman was too dour, so they’re promising that Justice League will be lighter. The reaction to the Suicide Squad trailer was so positive that they changed the movie to make it more like the trailer. I shudder to think what could happen this year if Wonder Woman and Justice League aren’t warmly received.
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Thu February 09, 2017 6:01 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Oh Jesus Christ fucking ANYONE but Matt Reeves
Re: Film: The Batman (Nolan) 20Never
Posted: Thu February 09, 2017 6:03 pm
by Strat
yea i think that'd be a very lame and safe choice.