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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:32 pm
by ---
BurtReynolds wrote:
96583UP wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:This is your daily reminder that there isn't a shred of proof to back up any of these claims,
sworn testimony from the accuser, Brett's calendar and yearbook which support the claim that he was a blackout party drunk (something he lied to when asked under oath initially) and that he engaged in threesomes ('devil's triangle') constitute more than a 'shred'
No that very much constitutes a "shred", and that's being charitable.

Let's not forget that he was also alive at the time the crime allegedly occurred, so that's some more proof right there.

Although we're apparently not even sure about the when.
Literally all of the persons she claims were there - this number has gone from three to four to five to four - deny her account of the events (her then-friend providing a sworn statement attesting to both not being at this party and having never met Kavanaugh). Her story includes exactly zero falsifiable elements, and the only meaningful detail she can recall (Place? Nope. Date? Nope. How she got to and from the home? Nope.) is that Kavanaugh was the perpetrator. If even one potentially falsifiable element lined up - let alone were offered - it would go a long way in establishing some evidentiary credibility. But...there just isn't any.

Also, the investigation will be dutifully conducted by the same agency that failed six different times to uncover exactly these events.

It's always possible that I've missed - or misrepresented - something factual, which I'm sure someone will kindly point out.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:34 pm
by run2death
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Is doing this an acceptable RM practice now?

I feel violated.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:37 pm
by ---
run2death wrote:
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Is doing this an acceptable RM practice now?

I feel violated.
channeling one's inner Balki and flouting RM convention is what fridays in N&D is all about

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:37 pm
by BurtReynolds
run2death wrote:
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Is doing this an acceptable RM practice now?

I feel violated.
It's a violation of established norms, but these are the times we're liviing in.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:43 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:44 pm
by ---
instantiating a new RM practice has made today totally worth it

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:45 pm
by washing machine
tragabigzanda wrote:middle page
quoting trag

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:55 pm
by Anders
B wrote:
Anders wrote:Politically I disagree with Kavanaugh on most key issues. Nevertheless, I worry about how a claim that he did something decades ago, as a 17 year old, suddenly pops up for the first time, as he is trying to get a position in The Supreme Court. It seems politically motivated, and therefore rings false in my ears.
I might agree with you if his answers were, "I was a kid who drank a lot and occasionally got into trouble. I don't remember this happening. I certainly don't think I was the type of person who would do this, but if I'm wrong, I'm very sorry for any trauma I've caused this woman, but I am a very different person today."

... and not, "You fuckers are part of a cabal trying to destroy me and ruin my family. Democrats can go to hell, I'm going to eat you all!"
Sure, if he was a Hollywood actor or rock star, or even a regular guy, this would be a good answer. However, in this specific case, he would probably be crucified if he answered what you wrote. I’m no Republican, but I can understand why he went on the war path.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 6:59 pm
by McParadigm
Murkowski on board with Flake.

I don’t know about this. Seems likely to end up less than fully conclusive, which changes little, but consider:

1. There has been talk for weeks of an FBI probe. None of these people were game. The White House was determined to avoid it. Kavanaugh talked it up but froze when asked to support. Senators rolled their eyes. Flake et al. clearly hoped that the hearing would provide sufficient vote cover, and initially thought that it had. Now they don’t.

2. No one Republican actually believes an FBI probe will work definitively in Kavanaugh’s favor, or they would have weaponized it as an option themselves.

3. Jeff Flake is a coward.

If I were McConnell, I’d be holding the vote as scheduled. If they follow through with their threats, replace him and blame Flake/Dems.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:01 pm
by bune
Who is Jeff Flake talking to when he does this? If he's truly thinking of running for President, who's going to vote for someone as spineless as he is?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:04 pm
by McParadigm
Or, if you think they aren’t bluffing, ditch him But basically, don’t let them cost you a week when a Supreme Court seat is up for grabs.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:14 pm
by McParadigm
And i don't believe Jeff Flake is a coward.
As a very preachy and idealistic coward myself, I can only assure you that game recognizes game.

Also I saw the elevator footage.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:15 pm
by dimejinky99
THis is well worth a minute of your time

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:18 pm
by BurtReynolds
Is anyone more aptly named than Flake?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:24 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
tragabigzanda wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
And i don't believe Jeff Flake is a coward.
As a very preachy and idealistic coward myself, I can only assure you that game recognizes game.

Also I saw the elevator footage.
curious why you saw cowardice there rather than a guy having second thoughts about his impact on the world?
Could be the way he tried to push the "close door" button on her face, and the inability to look either woman in the eye for more than two seconds?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:32 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:ah. i didn't actually see the footage, just heard reporting in CNN
It was rough. It’s entirely possible that those women will have altered the course of history, though.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Fri September 28, 2018 7:34 pm
by BurtReynolds
or maybe he just didn't feel like getting yelled at by random lunatics while cameras were rolling?