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Varis wrote:Boring Tuesday morning at work here.

Here too.

Varis wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:This place is funny... like a drought... All it takes is a tiny spark, and then sit back to watch the flames spread...

Keep RM as it is... Too much gold

Boring Tuesday morning at work here.

I brought this thread back to life a few days ago, and it's now an inferno...

RMers Never Die!

If you still like Pearl Jam you are a fucking moron who has no taste in art and you are a blind sheep

If you dislike pearl jam now you are a bitter asshole who knows more about art and has better taste in music than anyone else.


Thats kind of the vibe im getting here? AM i somewhat on? Im still working through it.

Iholdthepain wrote:

Varis wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:This place is funny... like a drought... All it takes is a tiny spark, and then sit back to watch the flames spread...

Keep RM as it is... Too much gold

Boring Tuesday morning at work here.

I brought this thread back to life a few days ago, and it's now an inferno...

RMers Never Die!

Forget stip for a second,...

...Eddie Vedder has somehow transformed in the past decade into the biggest nerd in rock music. Not only is he an enormous dork now, he's also completely stamping all over the minimal remains of his legacy. Not only did the PJ 20 movie paint the band as an 80s glam rock band, but now we're seeing the truth in that as they slowly tear off the flannel to reveal their spandex and cheese.

That said, I admit to being duped until a decade ago. You didn't need to be a socialist to appreciate someone standing up for something they believe in. They did that and I thought it was cool, when I was an innocent kid. I know I wasn't alone. Now-a-days, I look at him and wonder why I ever trusted him, and wonder why I ever thought this tool was cool. I knew he was an actor, but this extreme of a turn around? It's kinda amazing.

The whole thing is pretty humorous. Salesforce.com, Oracle, Target... I love hearing the "new excuse" for each, while reciting his old lyrics. Gets better and better.... and none of the defense has to come from him... it's the mirror Eds that do the heavy lifting having to defend his ridiculous hypocrisy. All he has to do is come around and say, he was innocent when he was younger and didn't know any better...

but why I expect more from this dolt?

IlluminEddie wrote:Forget stip for a second,...

...Eddie Vedder has somehow transformed in the past decade into the biggest nerd in rock music. Not only is he an enormous dork now, he's also completely stamping all over the minimal remains of his legacy. Not only did the PJ 20 movie paint the band as an 80s glam rock band, but now we're seeing the truth in that as they slowly tear off the flannel to reveal their spandex and cheese.

That said, I admit to being duped until a decade ago. You didn't need to be a socialist to appreciate someone standing up for something they believe in. They did that and I thought it was cool, when I was an innocent kid. I know I wasn't alone. Now-a-days, I look at him and wonder why I ever trusted him, and wonder why I ever thought this tool was cool. I knew he was an actor, but this extreme of a turn around? It's kinda amazing.

The whole thing is pretty humorous. Salesforce.com, Oracle, Target... I love hearing the "new excuse" for each, while reciting his old lyrics. Gets better and better.... and none of the defense has to come from him... it's the mirror Ed's that do the heavy lifting having to defend his ridiculous hypocrisy. All he has to do is come and say, he was innocent when he was younger and didn't know any better...

but why I expect more from this dolt?

Eds

Iholdthepain wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Forget stip for a second,...

...Eddie Vedder has somehow transformed in the past decade into the biggest nerd in rock music. Not only is he an enormous dork now, he's also completely stamping all over the minimal remains of his legacy. Not only did the PJ 20 movie paint the band as an 80s glam rock band, but now we're seeing the truth in that as they slowly tear off the flannel to reveal their spandex and cheese.

That said, I admit to being duped until a decade ago. You didn't need to be a socialist to appreciate someone standing up for something they believe in. They did that and I thought it was cool, when I was an innocent kid. I know I wasn't alone. Now-a-days, I look at him and wonder why I ever trusted him, and wonder why I ever thought this tool was cool. I knew he was an actor, but this extreme of a turn around? It's kinda amazing.

The whole thing is pretty humorous. Salesforce.com, Oracle, Target... I love hearing the "new excuse" for each, while reciting his old lyrics. Gets better and better.... and none of the defense has to come from him... it's the mirror Ed's that do the heavy lifting having to defend his ridiculous hypocrisy. All he has to do is come and say, he was innocent when he was younger and didn't know any better...

but why I expect more from this dolt?

Eds

Fixed it for you.

IlluminEddie wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Forget stip for a second,...

...Eddie Vedder has somehow transformed in the past decade into the biggest nerd in rock music. Not only is he an enormous dork now, he's also completely stamping all over the minimal remains of his legacy. Not only did the PJ 20 movie paint the band as an 80s glam rock band, but now we're seeing the truth in that as they slowly tear off the flannel to reveal their spandex and cheese.

That said, I admit to being duped until a decade ago. You didn't need to be a socialist to appreciate someone standing up for something they believe in. They did that and I thought it was cool, when I was an innocent kid. I know I wasn't alone. Now-a-days, I look at him and wonder why I ever trusted him, and wonder why I ever thought this tool was cool. I knew he was an actor, but this extreme of a turn around? It's kinda amazing.

The whole thing is pretty humorous. Salesforce.com, Oracle, Target... I love hearing the "new excuse" for each, while reciting his old lyrics. Gets better and better.... and none of the defense has to come from him... it's the mirror Ed's that do the heavy lifting having to defend his ridiculous hypocrisy. All he has to do is come and say, he was innocent when he was younger and didn't know any better...

but why I expect more from this dolt?

Eds

Fixed it for you.

'preciate ya, pal. Shit like that could shut down a forum.

P.S. ... Team Stip Forever!

Guys, PJ were never Fugazi, they were suckling off Sony's tits for years. You all know that. It's foolish to take this band face value. The Salesforce gig is just boring old rich rock stars doing boring old rich rock star things. They all do it. But, I can't begrudge someone getting money. It was probably a kick ass work party.

And like Spence said a few pages back, for me this place isn't all about the band. It's all you nudniks that keep me coming back.

IlluminEddie wrote: as they slowly tear off the flannel to reveal their spandex and cheese.

Just to clarify, I think there is a lot of positivity about PJ on this board. What stip and others wish was here was a more positive outlook on a specific period of the band's career. This is not a board that's blatantly negative about Pearl Jam in any way, shape or form, and from my limited experience in boarding with other groups and general music boards, this is not even close to the most negative board I've encountered.

On the contrary, it's by far the best I've seen, which makes the conversation kind of frustrating. There is a lot of good discussion on this board by people that are passionate about music and are able to write in such a way that illustrate their thoughts in an informative and entertaining way. You don't get that type of quality on 99.9% of the bullshit on the internet. And it's often funny as hell. So to hear that this place is a cesspool or devolved from some high plateau it used to straddle personally strikes me as just plain false. I have to disagree with stip in the sense that I think the frustration of this place stems far more from the type of criticism being offered (more critical or negative) rather than its quality.

digster wrote:Just to clarify, I think there is a lot of positivity about PJ on this board. What stip and others wish was here was a more positive outlook on a specific period of the band's career. This is not a board that's blatantly negative about Pearl Jam in any way, shape or form, and from my limited experience in boarding with other groups and general music boards, this is not even close to the most negative board I've encountered.

On the contrary, it's by far the best I've seen, which makes the conversation kind of frustrating. There is a lot of good discussion on this board by people that are passionate about music and are able to write in such a way that illustrate their thoughts in an informative and entertaining way. You don't get that type of quality on 99.9% of the bullshit on the internet. And it's often funny as hell. So to hear that this place is a cesspool or devolved from some high plateau it used to straddle personally strikes me as just plain false. I have to disagree with stip in the sense that I think the frustration of this place stems far more from the type of criticism being offered (more critical or negative) rather than its quality.

Agreed with all of this.

Birds in Hell wrote:

digster wrote:Just to clarify, I think there is a lot of positivity about PJ on this board. What stip and others wish was here was a more positive outlook on a specific period of the band's career. This is not a board that's blatantly negative about Pearl Jam in any way, shape or form, and from my limited experience in boarding with other groups and general music boards, this is not even close to the most negative board I've encountered.

On the contrary, it's by far the best I've seen, which makes the conversation kind of frustrating. There is a lot of good discussion on this board by people that are passionate about music and are able to write in such a way that illustrate their thoughts in an informative and entertaining way. You don't get that type of quality on 99.9% of the bullshit on the internet. And it's often funny as hell. So to hear that this place is a cesspool or devolved from some high plateau it used to straddle personally strikes me as just plain false. I have to disagree with stip in the sense that I think the frustration of this place stems far more from the type of criticism being offered (more critical or negative) rather than its quality.

Agreed with all of this.

Dammit! Made me change my vote again... Team Digster ALL THE WAY!!!



btw... look closely... It's Mohawk Ed!

I'd like to think, in all humility, that I started this line of criticism back in '03 when I went on the Pit and pointed out the hilarious irony of Ed writing a song about the evils of driving an SUV while touring the country in a private jet. The usual 200 post cacophony of stip-like apologists followed before Kat herself responded: "No private jet? Do you want them to play anywhere outside of Seattle?" (true story)

Well, thanks for listening RM

let's actually listen to: ed vedder's purported anti-commercialism

ed has quoted fugazi during early shows

ed was in a band that testified before congress about ticketmaster being a monopoly

ed gave a very convincing interview in the movie hype! about how music making industry gets fouled up when it goes through "money making channels"

ed wrote lyrics to a song shitting all over bill gates for being rich (a person who's foundation makes salesforce.com's phlanthropy look like a bake sale)

ed wrote lyrics to a song named "bu$hleaguer" (there is a dollar sign in there if you didnt notice)

ed wrote lyrics to a song called "green disease" (the green was in reference to money)

this band was never fugazi, but their lead singer has gone well out of his way to posture as though he has their same value system

he goes out of his way in PJ20 to name drop having just had a conversation with Ian MacKaye

and he just performed a solo concert for a CRM software company

ps

freedom of speech forever

Goddammit. I left the house today thinking we'd agreed that this was gonna be a PJ Harvey board from now on only to come back to see ten pages of posts about some fucking grunge band...

96583UP wrote:ed wrote lyrics to a song named "bu$hleaguer" (there is a dollar sign in there if you didnt notice)

I bet she has hit for the cycle so many times.