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Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 6:23 pm
by washing machine
tragabigzanda wrote:S1 presents a very interesting murder case. Lots of stuff to ponder over and debate.

S2 is a snoozer of a story that warranted 1-2 episodes, but not a full season.

S3 is sort of like The Wire in real life. Lots of different cases of varying shapes and sizes, and a great look into the Cleveland justice system.

The host, Sarah Koenig, can be pretty annoying sometimes, and at best she's totally benign. Not a personality i'd call likeable or unlikeable, just sort of there with some occasional annoying tendencies.
These are good takes. I didn't even finish S2. I felt like I knew everything I ever wanted to know about Bergdahl after about five episodes. What I liked most about that season, though, was how much perspective I gained on what the Afghan desert must really be like. My father in law spends a lot of time there throughout the year and it's actually helped me understand him a little more.

I'm two episodes into S3 and I really like the approach and structure of the season. I don't think I share Koenig's sympathy with the defendants in the first two episodes, but I'm not 100% disagreeing with her either. She's empathizing too much with the defendants and (especially in the Gaul episode) seems to almost brush off the idea that personal responsibility plays a part in any run-in with the law. Maybe it's the Texan in me, but I think Gaul sounds like the kind of tough love judge the community needs, not the heel that Koenig's tone makes him out to be in that story.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 6:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 7:04 pm
by washing machine
tragabigzanda wrote:Yeah, Koenig's constant insertion of her viewpoints in her stories is what gets me occasionally riled up, because her viewpoints aren't particularly interesting or compelling, and it seems like she just can't help herself from playing the role of SJW with a microphone. Her coverage would be more impactful for me if she made more of an effort to remove her viewpoint from the story, which she actually does a fair bit more in S3.
:thumbsup:

The coverage absolutely exposes negligence and haste on the part of the court system, and that really sucks for the defendants, but yeah, you nailed it. She steers the narrative that direction a bit too much at times.

Both times I've spent nights in jail, I came away from it very annoyed at the process but ultimately mad at myself for getting into the mess in the first place.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 8:22 pm
by epilogue
I feel like you guys have Serial on while you're doing other things.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 8:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 8:32 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I feel like you guys have Serial on while you're doing other things.
Nope! We listened to S3 Eps 1-4 on the drive to/from SLC last week. Have LITERALLY been sitting on the couch and listening to the rest of S3 after dinner the last couple nights, trying to watch less TV.
Okay good. Then I can respect your stupid opinion.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 8:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 8:40 pm
by epilogue
All snark aside, I can see where you're coming from re: Koenig, I just disagree. But I totally get where you're coming from and I've heard plenty of other people voice similar opinions. I completely disagree with Reid's specific points, however. It was those comments that made me wonder if people listening to this in the background.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 9:57 pm
by washing machine
I listen mostly while I'm walking my dog or washing dishes. I retain more on the dog walk than I do when washing the dishes or folding the clothes, fwiw.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:36 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Podcasts and dog walking were made for each other.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:37 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:Podcasts and dog walking were made for each other.
If I had a dog to walk, I would walk that dog whilst podcasting, for sure.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:40 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
washing machine wrote:I listen mostly while I'm walking my dog or washing dishes. I retain more on the dog walk than I do when washing the dishes or folding the clothes, fwiw.
I listen to all sorts of podcasts while i do other things too, i wasn't trying to give the impression that i hadn't. but for Serial S3, i truly and coincidentally have just been listening and not doing anything else
Exactly. Doing other things during other pods is totally fine. Serial S3 benefits from undivided attention.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:43 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
washing machine wrote:I listen mostly while I'm walking my dog or washing dishes. I retain more on the dog walk than I do when washing the dishes or folding the clothes, fwiw.
I listen to all sorts of podcasts while i do other things too, i wasn't trying to give the impression that i hadn't. but for Serial S3, i truly and coincidentally have just been listening and not doing anything else
Exactly. Doing other things during other pods is totally fine. Serial S3 benefits from undivided attention.
I'm saving S3 for the Christmas drive to Nebraska and back. My wife and I really enjoyed listening to S1 this way.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:44 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
washing machine wrote:I listen mostly while I'm walking my dog or washing dishes. I retain more on the dog walk than I do when washing the dishes or folding the clothes, fwiw.
I listen to all sorts of podcasts while i do other things too, i wasn't trying to give the impression that i hadn't. but for Serial S3, i truly and coincidentally have just been listening and not doing anything else
Exactly. Doing other things during other pods is totally fine. Serial S3 benefits from undivided attention.
I'm saving S3 for the Christmas drive to Nebraska and back. My wife and I really enjoyed listening to S1 this way.
:hooray:

S3 is outstanding.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:46 pm
by washing machine
Monkey_Driven wrote:Podcasts and dog walking were made for each other.
Beastie Boys albums are great for dog walking too.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Wed November 28, 2018 10:47 pm
by Monkey_Driven
washing machine wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Podcasts and dog walking were made for each other.
Beastie Boys albums are great for dog walking too.
Can confirm.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Thu November 29, 2018 2:33 am
by bune
durdencommatyler wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Podcasts and dog walking were made for each other.
If I had a dog to walk, I would walk that dog whilst podcasting, for sure.
Cast that pod to the wind.

Re: What podcasts are you listening to?

Posted: Thu November 29, 2018 12:39 pm
by epilogue
bune wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Podcasts and dog walking were made for each other.
If I had a dog to walk, I would walk that dog whilst podcasting, for sure.
Cast that pod to the wind.
:luv: