Red Mosquito

igotworms wrote:

stip wrote:we've had so many conflicting impressions of My Father's Son.

Infallible and Pendulum sound like the most universally appreciated tracks.

Between this review and the radio guy saying future days was his favorite (and mirella saying it was a good song on the record) that might actually work out.

I'm freaking out that it has violin on it. Jesus Christ. Violin. *shudder*

I love violin if it's tastefully played. There's violin in Around the Bend, isn't there?

igotworms wrote:

harmless wrote:

igotworms wrote:Just to reiterate an earlier post - and completely contradicting my comments about the UK music press - the reviews editor of Q magazine has tweeted that he rates LB amongst the best albums of the year so far. So looks like there will be a very positive review of the album in next month's Q.

Maybe it all depends on how you respond to cheese.

But because he reads Swallowed Whole as like another Backspacer cut, I'm not entirely sure I agree with him about anything else sounding like Backspacer, because that one really doesn't. Into The Wild is a better comparison.

Q reviewer LOVES the title track. So that already puts him at loggerheads with this latest review, which was lukewarm about it.

I suspect that overall the reviews will pretty much reflect how the fanbase will react to it - some will love it, some will hate it, most will think it's a mixed bag.

It sounds like this is one of their more sonically varied records in a while, at least in terms of the style of songs, and one of the least aggressive PJ records in a while, which is usually one of the easier emotions to grab onto right away, especially with only a few listens (or even just one in a public place) before a review.

Again, reviews from things like listening parties are really just useful for giving you a feel for what a song might sound like. We've had 3 so far, and all have tracks the reviewers liked and were generally positive.

Cheese isn't always bad tho...

Cheesiness is increasingly becoming a word I think needs to be defined with examples before being used.

harmless wrote:

igotworms wrote:

stip wrote:we've had so many conflicting impressions of My Father's Son.

Infallible and Pendulum sound like the most universally appreciated tracks.

Between this review and the radio guy saying future days was his favorite (and mirella saying it was a good song on the record) that might actually work out.

I'm freaking out that it has violin on it. Jesus Christ. Violin. *shudder*

I love violin if it's tastefully played. There's violin in Around the Bend, isn't there?

Mmmm don't think so. Unless it's so subtle I've never picked up on it. To the best of my knowledge, PJ are violin-less up to this point. Post Future Days, however, they will be fully violined up. Album 11 will basically be Dexys Midnight Runners.

sward wrote:For some reason after reading a couple of these Sirens reviews that indicate its cheesiness and/or 80's ballad I'm expecting it sound exactly like When I See You Smile and John Waite doing the background vocals.

When I hear your sirens
I can face the world
Oooh..you know i can do anything.
When I hear your sirens

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Anyhow, it worries me a little that the cheesiness is so apparent.

Yeah they didnt even go for heartwrenching or beautiful or any of the words that can usually be taken as codewords for cheesy. Just cheesy straight up.

It's...not gonna be good. Is it...

I was reactive, team. It's not a bad review. I just find London to be full of pretentious press, and that "Oh dear" kind of pissed me off. On the bright side, I've heard the song it was referring to and that wasn't my thought, so whatever. I just think the UK has moved on from Pearl Jam. Like the reviewer said, whenever they have a new album out it's like 'Oh, Pearl Jam! I remember them! They have a new album? When?'

igotworms wrote:

harmless wrote:

igotworms wrote:

stip wrote:we've had so many conflicting impressions of My Father's Son.

Infallible and Pendulum sound like the most universally appreciated tracks.

Between this review and the radio guy saying future days was his favorite (and mirella saying it was a good song on the record) that might actually work out.

I'm freaking out that it has violin on it. Jesus Christ. Violin. *shudder*

I love violin if it's tastefully played. There's violin in Around the Bend, isn't there?

Mmmm don't think so. Unless it's so subtle I've never picked up on it. To the best of my knowledge, PJ are violin-less up to this point. Post Future Days, however, they will be fully violined up. Album 11 will basically be Dexys Midnight Runners.

Parting Ways? Just Breathe?

stip wrote:Cheesiness is increasingly becoming a word I think needs to be defined with examples before being used.

Mike wrote:

igotworms wrote:

harmless wrote:

igotworms wrote:

stip wrote:we've had so many conflicting impressions of My Father's Son.

Infallible and Pendulum sound like the most universally appreciated tracks.

Between this review and the radio guy saying future days was his favorite (and mirella saying it was a good song on the record) that might actually work out.

I'm freaking out that it has violin on it. Jesus Christ. Violin. *shudder*

I love violin if it's tastefully played. There's violin in Around the Bend, isn't there?

Mmmm don't think so. Unless it's so subtle I've never picked up on it. To the best of my knowledge, PJ are violin-less up to this point. Post Future Days, however, they will be fully violined up. Album 11 will basically be Dexys Midnight Runners.

Parting Ways? Just Breathe?

Parting Ways is cello. Totally different kettle of fish. Cellos fekking rock. In the case of Therapy? (who actually had a cellist in the band) quite literally.

igotworms wrote:

harmless wrote:

igotworms wrote:

stip wrote:we've had so many conflicting impressions of My Father's Son.

Infallible and Pendulum sound like the most universally appreciated tracks.

Between this review and the radio guy saying future days was his favorite (and mirella saying it was a good song on the record) that might actually work out.

I'm freaking out that it has violin on it. Jesus Christ. Violin. *shudder*

I love violin if it's tastefully played. There's violin in Around the Bend, isn't there?

Mmmm don't think so. Unless it's so subtle I've never picked up on it. To the best of my knowledge, PJ are violin-less up to this point. Post Future Days, however, they will be fully violined up. Album 11 will basically be Dexys Midnight Runners.

"Just Breathe" had strings, which isn't saying much, but so does "Parting Ways" (not Around the Bend, that has piano).

stupidmop wrote:

sward wrote:For some reason after reading a couple of these Sirens reviews that indicate its cheesiness and/or 80's ballad I'm expecting it sound exactly like When I See You Smile and John Waite doing the background vocals.

When I hear your sirens
I can face the world
Oooh..you know i can do anything.
When I hear your sirens

-----

Anyhow, it worries me a little that the cheesiness is so apparent.

Yeah they didnt even go for heartwrenching or beautiful or any of the words that can usually be taken as codewords for cheesy. Just cheesy straight up.

It's...not gonna be good. Is it...

It sounds like it is an excessive song. If it pulls back at just the right moment, or carries you with it, it's great. If it doesn't then you can dismiss it. Either way it is cheesy. It's just a question of whether or not you care.

Stairway to Heaven is a cheesy song. It's still pretty great.

Anyway, cello, violin... it's all OK by me, but I like folk music so whatever.

stip wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

sward wrote:For some reason after reading a couple of these Sirens reviews that indicate its cheesiness and/or 80's ballad I'm expecting it sound exactly like When I See You Smile and John Waite doing the background vocals.

When I hear your sirens
I can face the world
Oooh..you know i can do anything.
When I hear your sirens

-----

Anyhow, it worries me a little that the cheesiness is so apparent.

Yeah they didnt even go for heartwrenching or beautiful or any of the words that can usually be taken as codewords for cheesy. Just cheesy straight up.

It's...not gonna be good. Is it...

It sounds like it is an excessive song. If it pulls back at just the right moment, or carries you with it, it's great. If it doesn't then you can dismiss it. Either way it is cheesy. It's just a question of whether or not you care.

Stairway to Heaven is a cheesy song. It's still pretty great.

Yeah its mostly that its some fan reactions thats worrying me. They're pre-disposed to like it! But I'm gonna listen and and hope i like it anyway.

Wikipedia tells me there is a viola (yeah ok, not a violin) on Binaural. So it's cello and viola on Parting Ways I guess.

stupidmop wrote:

stip wrote:Cheesiness is increasingly becoming a word I think needs to be defined with examples before being used.

those first two songs are horrible. I like eternal flame.

If someone doesn't like it they'll call it a bon jovi song or dad rock because it is the most effective way to dismiss it and those who like it

nice edit to your post, stupidmop

I knew it wasn't just cello; one of them was too high. Is a viola just one step deeper than a violin?

stip wrote:nice edit to your post, stupidmop

Yeah i screwed the puchline, welp.

I think I'm probably in the best place in my life to accept cheese, guys. If it doesn't happen now it won't happen at all.