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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:32 am
by VinylGuy
You guys are so old

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:33 am
by VinylGuy
I also listened to this one a bit more and I’m more and more impressed with Ed’s vocals

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:34 am
by VinylGuy
Also the guitars reminded me of Ghost a bit

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:35 am
by 96583UP
i’m just glad Matt finally showed up as ‘real Matt’ for this one and not ‘Matt doing pearl jam’

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:39 am
by RockPusher
Birds in Hell wrote:
RockPusher wrote:BO'B obviously "wrote" the ridiculous piano contributions on LB on songs like Future Days, whether he received credit as a songwriter or not.
Sure, but again - that's not the same thing.
We don't know that.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:46 am
by RockPusher
Shit, I'd go so far as to say I don't care who writes the song if it's performed well by Pearl Jam. Crazy Mary is a song that they really made their own, even though it was written by Victoria Williams and she sings on their version as well. If Watt helps them create songs that move me the way Pearl Jam can, then why should I be upset about that? Is there some cheat against some purity code happening there? Where can one read this code?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:49 am
by Jaeti
VinylGuy wrote:Also the guitars reminded me of Ghost a bit
Hmm. HMMMM. This is maybe the connection my mind/ears have been trying to make. In a "just a bit" sort of way.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 3:53 am
by Jaeti
Jaeti wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Also the guitars reminded me of Ghost a bit
Hmm. HMMMM. This is maybe the connection my mind/ears have been trying to make. In a "just a bit" sort of way.
Yes, yes, I think this is it.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 4:06 am
by Leatherhead
B wrote:According to the vinyl, Watt has writing credit on the music. Is this the first Pearl Jam original with a non-member writing?

I'm too lazy to read my own book.
Just this one song?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 4:06 am
by Leatherhead
Birds in Hell wrote:
RockPusher wrote:BO'B obviously "wrote" the ridiculous piano contributions on LB on songs like Future Days, whether he received credit as a songwriter or not.
Sure, but again - that's not the same thing.
But you don't even know what the "thing" really is.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 5:07 am
by thesound
Guys, fear not! I have discovered Wottmans contribution as a hidden vocal during the guitar solo at exactly 2:59. It’s actually a single word and the source of Dark Matter - Satan! :twisted: :D We now have an explanation for the name of the album and song! It’s before Eddie does his little devil scream. Either it’s Wott or our AI overlords are inserting subliminal messages in the split tracks. I took a screen recording with audio, but no idea how to post videos so here is an audio clip (It is at 8 seconds mark).

One might believe it is just bleed from splitting the tracks, but I prefer to believe this is Wott’s sole credit!

https://voca.ro/12oXua2vJZLe

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 5:12 am
by Tj
1,2,3,4,5,6 and Josh against 1

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 5:13 am
by Ello Sailor
Spenno trying to not be a cranky traditionalist challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 5:13 am
by Tj
Come on guys they are like 60. Andrew is their little blue pill

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 5:23 am
by Tj
In addition to producing and engineering, Parashar played piano (including Fender Rhodes), organ and percussion on the Pearl Jam tracks "Black" and "Jeremy" as well as Temple of the Dog's "Call Me a Dog", "All Night Thing", and "Times of Trouble". He was also a composer and ran London bridge I'm sure he has a big influence on Ten

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 5:27 am
by Tj
I would say the piano is kind of important in Black

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 6:06 am
by oneway23
Folks trying to act like the Wottman getting a few credits is somehow akin to Desmond Child writing tunes for Aerosmith & Bon Jovi....F that noise...
As if the integrity meter has somehow seismically swung from Fugazi over to Katy Perry. Outta here with that.

He's merely giving our boys a bit of a fluff. No shame

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 6:34 am
by Val
That is such a non-issue

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 7:00 am
by Ms Harmless
Watt clearly acted as a musical director, giving them advice on musical arrangement while watching them play, and probably telling Ed his first draft lyrics were lazy as part of his duty as producer; that's not even slightly out of the remit of what most producers do, and most of them won't get a writing credit; but Pearl Jam values collaboration with their friends as an extension of their band, so he gets a credit, and that's OK with me

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Sat February 17, 2024 9:57 am
by stip
Watt has a writing credit for every song on Earthlings, and it rules