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The idea that his son was gonna pass it Elisa is a cool thought

Bi_3 wrote:Hayes legit forgot why he went, the son saved it as he realized how important it must have been to his dad and that was dad was a brilliant detective so it must mean something.

Yeah, I like this reading. The idea that Henry's look after reading the note conveys, "He did it...he fucking did it."

I may be reading too much into it, but I think Pizzolatto was ultimately going for mimicking the relationships between the character pairings across the story arcs. Junius' ending felt very much like Wayne's to me. Amelia and Elisa, both moving the case forward with investigation and intelligence when the violence of men failed (maybe DcT or someone more schooled in this stuff than me can expand on that). You might even say Henry and Elisa's affair paralleled Wayne and Amelia's.

And after a moment's reflection, i think psychobain was right about the jungle scene. Wayne's last moment of clarity was Amelia (lost girl) forgiving him (dead boy), the most important of his life before descending into deadly jungle of dementia.

i loved it. The whole season was great and emotional and dark. I loved how the mystery was fading and letting more space to the characters...and i dont have any problem with the black guy explaining what happened nor Wayne reading the book and thinking bout the girl at the convent. I also think he didnt wanted to be the one to discover the girl and passed the paper on his son just to see if he was going to. He finally puts the past behind him, and he can rest with his old partner.

And yeah, the final scene...looks he is watching us, guiding us through his mind. Very cool.

I loved this season, but was kind of disappointed with the finale.

Bi_3 wrote:And after a moment's reflection, i think psychobain was right about the jungle scene. Wayne's last moment of clarity was Amelia (lost girl) forgiving him (dead boy), the most important of his life before descending into deadly jungle of dementia.

This would take a bit more than a moment to fully flesh out, but: I also think there's a subtle book-ending going on with that being the final shot of the season, considering how it all started. Before the first episode aired, I noted how the title of the episode--"The Great War and Modern Memory"--was a reference to a book of literary criticism that argued how the First World War set the table for trauma to be the defining metaphor for literature for the majority of the twentieth century. The reading went, basically, that the confluence of politics, philosophy, history, technology, biology, and everything else that collided during WWI (especially in the trenches, but not exclusively) morphed the western imagination into one that always came back to the idea of recurrence (see what I did there?). Makes a lot of sense with how psychoanalysis was reshaping how we thought of the psyche in the decades leading up to that. This shaped modernism as we know it and, inevitably, postmodernism as well. I posited back before the season started that this was going to be one of Pizzolatto's guiding lights throughout these eight episodes. With how it ended, though, I think what he might actually be driving towards is a revision, thinking about how the late 20th century/early 21st has shifted the away from trauma and towards dementia as the gathering principle for how we organize experiences and our metanarratives. If this is truly what he's going for--and I know that's a big if, I haven't started to put everything together yet and this is giving him a lot of credit (but he obviously paid attention in grad school, IMHO, considering the title of that first episode)--then it's a huge revision, as most criticism of the post-Vietnam era still hinges on trauma readings (PTSD and so on). The more I think about it, the more I think it's actually an incredibly powerful move, if a deeper reading helps hold it together.

I agree with that too.

Can we talk about how good Dorff was? The scene with the dog was amazing.

Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

season 1 was almost 10
this one was a fine 9

season 4 please

durdencommatyler wrote:Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

Well.. overall season 1 was the best, but Ali’s work in S3 was the best.

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

Well.. overall season 1 was the best, but Ali’s work in S3 was the best.

I would say S3 was the best on every level outside of cinematography. Cary's camera work is exceptional and unrivaled. But on every other level S3 is not only superior but I'd say on many levels vastly superior.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

Well.. overall season 1 was the best, but Ali’s work in S3 was the best.

I would say S3 was the best on every level outside of cinematography. Cary's camera work is exceptional and unrivaled. But on every other level S3 is not only superior but I'd say on many levels vastly superior.

I respect your opinion and enjoy that you have shared it

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

Well.. overall season 1 was the best, but Ali’s work in S3 was the best.

I would say S3 was the best on every level outside of cinematography. Cary's camera work is exceptional and unrivaled. But on every other level S3 is not only superior but I'd say on many levels vastly superior.

I respect your opinion and enjoy that you have shared it

No you don't.

season 1 had a naked alexandra daddario.

end of discussion.

oh gawd

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

Well.. overall season 1 was the best, but Ali’s work in S3 was the best.

I would say S3 was the best on every level outside of cinematography. Cary's camera work is exceptional and unrivaled. But on every other level S3 is not only superior but I'd say on many levels vastly superior.

I respect your opinion and enjoy that you have shared it

No you don't.

In fact I do

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Season 3 is the best season of True Detective.

Well.. overall season 1 was the best, but Ali’s work in S3 was the best.

I would say S3 was the best on every level outside of cinematography. Cary's camera work is exceptional and unrivaled. But on every other level S3 is not only superior but I'd say on many levels vastly superior.

I respect your opinion and enjoy that you have shared it

No you don't.

In fact I do

Oh.

Apologies then.

I dont think its fair to season 3 to be compared with S1. Thats the one that started all, and its kinda of untouchable for me. Season 3 is just an astonishing piece of art, with such a good cast, good characters and a very cool premise.

Season 1 9/10
Season 2 5/10
Season 3 6/10 (Ali’s acting 10/10)

I'd say probably overall season 1 was better (though I'd need to rewatch it), but I definitely feel the last few episodes and conclusion of season 3 was markedly better. I distinctly remember the final few episodes of the first season feeling like they were sputtering a bit; the last episode was a fun watch, but it didn't feel like it illuminated anything new. This season definitely felt like it was building towards its conclusion, and I feel that this was the best ending the show has crafted thus far by a significant margin.