TV: Breaking Bad

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Monkey_Driven]

Same

[VinylGuy]

why not?

[Jammer XCI]

They said the same thing about Better Call Saul before it came out and that’s borderline better than Breaking Bad.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[wease]

They said the same thing about Better Call Saul before it came out and that’s borderline better than Breaking Bad.

I think it's easily better than BB, though I was immediately intrigued by those details when they first came out; I saw great potential in the story behind Jimmy.

There’s no doubt it’s better than Breaking Bad.

[Strat]

calm down guys

[Mecca]

Well it was already an unnecessary story. And the two clips I've seen -- of what's-his-name in the interrogation room, and Jesse crying in the car -- look like they're really trying to hammer in on the tragedy of Jesse's arc...

Which I never much cared for to begin with. I always found him to be an extremely unsympathetic character, and while Paul turned in an excellent performance, I think that Pinkham as he was written was mostly a shit. It was tough for me to feel much of anything other than contempt for him during BB, so this apparent grab for my empathy feels like a stretch.

But who knows. Maybe it'll be great. I'll still watch it, because at least I'll get to see Badger again.

What did you feel for Walter White?

[VinylGuy]

NEW TRAILER OUT AND LOOKS FUCKING AMAZING

I NEED THIS

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[E.H. Ruddock]

NEW TRAILER OUT AND LOOKS FUCKING AMAZING

I NEED THIS

Are you talking about the trailer of him sitting in the El Camino listening to the radio? I wouldn't say "looks amazing" from that, but ok.

[Mecca]

Well it was already an unnecessary story. And the two clips I've seen -- of what's-his-name in the interrogation room, and Jesse crying in the car -- look like they're really trying to hammer in on the tragedy of Jesse's arc...

Which I never much cared for to begin with. I always found him to be an extremely unsympathetic character, and while Paul turned in an excellent performance, I think that Pinkham as he was written was mostly a shit. It was tough for me to feel much of anything other than contempt for him during BB, so this apparent grab for my empathy feels like a stretch.

But who knows. Maybe it'll be great. I'll still watch it, because at least I'll get to see Badger again.

What did you feel for Walter White?

Loved him. Wouldn’t say I condoned his turn to Heisenberg, but his entire arc resonated with me.

that you feel contempt for Jesse and loved Walter I think is the beauty of this show; people love the guy who breaks bad and hold contempt for the guy who gets good just because he stands in the way of Walter. After Jane's death and Jesse getting clean, how can you not love him?

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Strat]

I agree it was nice to see Jesse develop some sort of moral compass as the show went on, but it still felt very self-serving, which he’d been from day 1. Watching his interactions with his family, and then the whole stretch of debauchery in his house with the cash, the drugs, etc...He was always like a feral dog to me, entirely interested in his own appetites and self preservation, which never felt earned given his comfortable upbringing.

Maybe he’ll go work for Habitat For Humanity in the movie and I’ll be able to empathize more. But as it stands, his battles with Walter struck me as kind of pointless, and his escape at the end felt fairly unfulfilling.

Hmm. I felt for Jesse immensely because of Walter master manipulation of him and everyone around him.

[Strat]

At some point none of those decisions were his own (pinkman) but rather the warped sense of reality he became a part of through walters mind games and control.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Strat]

I agree it was nice to see Jesse develop some sort of moral compass as the show went on, but it still felt very self-serving, which he’d been from day 1. Watching his interactions with his family, and then the whole stretch of debauchery in his house with the cash, the drugs, etc...He was always like a feral dog to me, entirely interested in his own appetites and self preservation, which never felt earned given his comfortable upbringing.

Maybe he’ll go work for Habitat For Humanity in the movie and I’ll be able to empathize more. But as it stands, his battles with Walter struck me as kind of pointless, and his escape at the end felt fairly unfulfilling.

Hmm. I felt for Jesse immensely because of Walter master manipulation of him and everyone around him.

Yeah that’s basically what others have said to me when I’ve broight this up before

Maybe you should watch again now that you are sober.

[Mecca]

I agree it was nice to see Jesse develop some sort of moral compass as the show went on, but it still felt very self-serving, which he’d been from day 1. Watching his interactions with his family, and then the whole stretch of debauchery in his house with the cash, the drugs, etc...He was always like a feral dog to me, entirely interested in his own appetites and self preservation, which never felt earned given his comfortable upbringing.

Maybe he’ll go work for Habitat For Humanity in the movie and I’ll be able to empathize more. But as it stands, his battles with Walter struck me as kind of pointless, and his escape at the end felt fairly unfulfilling.

I mean, his upbringing didn't seem all sunshine and comfort to me. He was a problem child for sure, but that's not an atypical thing for middle class parents thinking that they gave everything that a kid could want, so why would he turn to drugs. He also grew up taking care of his aunt that was dying of cancer when no one else would; his family then went behind his back to try and take away the house that she wanted to leave to him even when they weren't there for her in her time of sickness.

He was beaten down for different reasons than Walter.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.