Red Mosquito

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Jorge wrote:Anyway, no, I think Al Jean is to blame

tragabigzanda wrote:

Jorge wrote:I've never watched any of those shows

The Office is the only one that holds up, and you should still consider watching it.

30 Rock was great in its era but feels really dated now.

Parks & Rec mostly sucks. There are some side characters and guest stars that are really funny.

tommy wrote:

Jorge wrote:Anyway, no, I think Al Jean is to blame

Looks like he left after season 4, which leaves 5 great seasons unaccounted for

Jorge wrote:

tommy wrote:

Jorge wrote:Anyway, no, I think Al Jean is to blame

Looks like he left after season 4, which leaves 5 great seasons unaccounted for

I mean when he took over as sole showrunner in season 13. He was the show runner for like 20 years

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Farmer John wrote:

bada wrote:I've been watching Parks and Recreation and it makes me happy. I remember trying the first episode when it came out and dismissed it as a Office rip off but I'm really glad I gave it another chance.

Many of us here are of the opinion that it is superior to The Office.

tragabigzanda wrote:

tommy wrote:Now I feel like I'd like to read a history of the Simpsons.

SYSK did two really good episodes:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467422/

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467340/

tragabigzanda wrote:

tommy wrote:Now I feel like I'd like to read a history of the Simpsons.

SYSK did two really good episodes:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467422/

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-stu ... -29467340/

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

epilogue wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

The Office is way too low.

But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.

epilogue wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

The Office is way too low.

But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.

Sloppy Dupree wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

The Office is way too low.

But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.

I think the post-Carell years tanks The Office. And I guess I meant “golden age for Millenials”

tommy wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

The Office is way too low.

But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.

I specified their aughts golden age in my post.

Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.

epilogue wrote:

tommy wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

The Office is way too low.

But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.

I specified their aughts golden age in my post.

Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.

It's not as good as Parks and Rec, I agree.

tommy wrote:

epilogue wrote:

tommy wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Sloppy Dupree wrote:I think my NBC golden age rankings would be:
Parks and Rec
Community
30 Rock
The Office

The Office is way too low.

But also it's hard to talk about an NBC "golden age" without talking about (at least) Seinfeld, Wings, Friends, Frasier, Mad About You, and Will and Grace.

I specified their aughts golden age in my post.

Also, I don't consider The Office to be bad, it's just not as good as 30 Rock or Parks and Rec.

It's not as good as Parks and Rec, I agree.

Not a 30 Rock fan?