Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Wed June 08, 2016 5:26 pm
I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
Yes, and we've never met him. He's in some floating castle somewhere in the Neck.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
You should absolutely re-read them. And post here as you go so we can geek out together.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
cutuphalfdead wrote:You should absolutely re-read them. And post here as you go so we can geek out together.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
Thanks!Simple Torture wrote:Yes, and we've never met him. He's in some floating castle somewhere in the Neck.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
I'm a little unclear about whether their castle actually floats around the Neck or whether the swamps where it's located are so treacherous that it seems like it moves. I'm sure the fucked up seasons also do crazy shit to the landscape.durdencommatyler wrote:Thanks!Simple Torture wrote:Yes, and we've never met him. He's in some floating castle somewhere in the Neck.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
For real about the castle thing, though?
That would make sense.Simple Torture wrote:I imagine he doesn't know Jon's parentage, but rather that Rhegar didn't "kidnap" Lyanna.Monkey_Driven wrote:Sure, but so were a bunch of other people and they don't/didn't know Jon's true parentage.Mecca wrote:Littlefinger was at the tourney at Harrenhal and implied through facial cues that he knew more to the story than what Sansa believes
Are we talking about book Ned or show Ned? In the books, I agree. It's probably Howland Reed that tells Jon. The show, however, seems to have foreshadowed Benjen. The last thing he said to Jon was "we'll talk when I return." And Uncle Benhands is clearly aware of the visions that Bran has witnessed. Even if Ned didn't say anything to him, I'm fairly certain that Benjen and Bran will be the ones to tell Jon on the show.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yep. He wouldn't even tell Catelyn which would have made Jon's life immensely easier.Simple Torture wrote:Doubtful, since we know Ned would never break a promise; it's one of the only absolutes in the entire ASOIF universe. I am convinced the only other person who knows is Howland Reed.Zantac Junkie wrote:I would imagine that Benjen (and Bran) is the most likely person to tell Jon. If Ned told anyone, I'd would think it would be his only remaining sibling.
I agree. I have a feeling the audience/Bran will find out in episode 10, but Jon will not until next season.Zantac Junkie wrote:Are we talking about book Ned or show Ned? In the books, I agree. It's probably Howland Reed that tells Jon. The show, however, seems to have foreshadowed Benjen. The last thing he said to Jon was "we'll talk when I return." And Uncle Benhands is clearly aware of the visions that Bran has witnessed. Even if Ned didn't say anything to him, I'm fairly certain that Benjen and Bran will be the ones to tell Jon on the show.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yep. He wouldn't even tell Catelyn which would have made Jon's life immensely easier.Simple Torture wrote:Doubtful, since we know Ned would never break a promise; it's one of the only absolutes in the entire ASOIF universe. I am convinced the only other person who knows is Howland Reed.Zantac Junkie wrote:I would imagine that Benjen (and Bran) is the most likely person to tell Jon. If Ned told anyone, I'd would think it would be his only remaining sibling.
yeah that makes senseZantac Junkie wrote:Are we talking about book Ned or show Ned? In the books, I agree. It's probably Howland Reed that tells Jon. The show, however, seems to have foreshadowed Benjen. The last thing he said to Jon was "we'll talk when I return." And Uncle Benhands is clearly aware of the visions that Bran has witnessed. Even if Ned didn't say anything to him, I'm fairly certain that Benjen and Bran will be the ones to tell Jon on the show.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yep. He wouldn't even tell Catelyn which would have made Jon's life immensely easier.Simple Torture wrote:Doubtful, since we know Ned would never break a promise; it's one of the only absolutes in the entire ASOIF universe. I am convinced the only other person who knows is Howland Reed.Zantac Junkie wrote:I would imagine that Benjen (and Bran) is the most likely person to tell Jon. If Ned told anyone, I'd would think it would be his only remaining sibling.
durdencommatyler wrote:Thanks!Simple Torture wrote:Yes, and we've never met him. He's in some floating castle somewhere in the Neck.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
For real about the castle thing, though?
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That would have been so fucking great!bada wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Thanks!Simple Torture wrote:Yes, and we've never met him. He's in some floating castle somewhere in the Neck.durdencommatyler wrote:I've lost so much track of everything in the books. I need to re-read those fuckers. Is Howland Reed still alive?
For real about the castle thing, though?
When I saw Ian McShane was cast for a role I thought for sure he'd be Howland Reed.
Far be it for me to tell another artist how to art. But...tragabigzanda wrote:"I'm doing Wild Cards 27; there's a two-issue prequel comic about the Tower of Joy; and Fevre Dream is getting prepped for a deluxe reissue."Simple Torture wrote:In his latest Livejournal post (keep reading once you've finished laughing), GRRM confirmed that he just got home from New York and that he has "lots to report." He usually meets with his editors when he's there...we'll see...