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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:13 am
by McParadigm
No wonder Barr doesn’t want to have an attorney ask him questions

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:16 am
by bune
Mueller's book is going to make so much money.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:18 am
by doug rr
possible whiskey gif tomorrow?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:44 am
by Bi_3
doug rr wrote:it appears Mueller wrote an interesting letter to Barr..
Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials.
Seems like a non-story

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:56 am
by Bi_3
Just 2 lawmakers have seen less-redacted Mueller report?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/ ... ed-1295105

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:01 am
by digster
This makes Mueller's team look awfully naive. They'd just investigated Donald Trump and his campaign and administration for two years; they didn't consider the possibility that a member of his administration might mislead people about the report?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:49 am
by Chris_H_2
digster wrote:This makes Mueller's team look awfully naive. They'd just investigated Donald Trump and his campaign and administration for two years; they didn't consider the possibility that a member of his administration might mislead people about the report?
what could they have done differently?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 1:22 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:
doug rr wrote:it appears Mueller wrote an interesting letter to Barr..
Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials.
Seems like a non-story
When conservative media describes current care pathways for infants born unable to survive, but represents those pathways as free-for-all post-birth abortion dead baby parties that liberals laugh about and doctors dream of, they are misrepresenting the context of the decision, the nature of the decision, and the substance of the moment. Just those three things.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 1:26 pm
by BurtReynolds
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:13 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:23 pm
by Fuzzy_Dunlop
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:28 pm
by Bi_3
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?
The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:36 pm
by Fuzzy_Dunlop
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?
The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."
Seems like another way of saying the same thing.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:39 pm
by Bi_3
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?
The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."
Seems like another way of saying the same thing.
It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:53 pm
by Fuzzy_Dunlop
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?
The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."
Seems like another way of saying the same thing.
It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.
I don't get why you think Barr's intentions are the only story here? The fact Mueller felt the need to write the letter is a significant story regardless of what he thinks about Barr's intention.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:05 pm
by Chris_H_2
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?
The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."
Seems like another way of saying the same thing.
It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.
do you think barr did it intentionally?

i think cherry picking parts of mueller's conclusions to eliminate context and to create the impression that mueller was unequivocally exculpating trump is pretty intentional, no?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:29 pm
by McParadigm
Jesus Christ, this hearing.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:41 pm
by Bi_3
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Seems like a non-story
This thread.
Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1
Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?
The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."
Seems like another way of saying the same thing.
It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.
do you think barr did it intentionally?

i think cherry picking parts of mueller's conclusions to eliminate context and to create the impression that mueller was unequivocally exculpating trump is pretty intentional, no?
I do think Barr did it intentionally (as I think think Trump committed obstruction) but I didnt read it as unequivocally exculpating, it was just vague enough to cause confusion. I just dont think that's what Mueller was stating in his letter, it's what we are projecting onto it.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:31 pm
by McParadigm
Ha ha holy shit.

“We know that actions were taken which would be illegal for a Super PAC.”

Barr: “We do?”

“Polling data was shared.”

Barr: “With who?”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:33 pm
by doug rr
yeah, booker just laughed...