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Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 2:31 am
by Norah
The problem is, we're years removed from the Red Wedding (per Edmure's speech to Jaime). She's only supposed to be days removed from getting killed when Beric gives her the divine CPR.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 2:32 am
by Simple Torture
Mecca wrote:Beric gives up his flame to catelyn, tho
I forgot about this, yeah. Actually probably the best evidence for why she might not show up in the show.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 2:46 am
by Norah
I guess there isn't going to be a King's Landing much longer.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 2:58 am
by Norah
So in the books Cersei is going on trial for, among other things, the incest with Jaime that led to him fathering the Baratheon children. I assume this is also what she's on trial for in the show, which means Tommen's complicity with the Faith makes no sense. If she's guilty then he's not king.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:00 am
by Simple Torture
cutuphalfdead wrote:So in the books Cersei is going on trial for, among other things, the incest with Jaime that led to him fathering the Baratheon children. I assume this is also what she's on trial for in the show, which means Tommen's complicity with the Faith makes no sense. If she's guilty then he's not king.
They should address it at some point since it's just a big meatball sitting there, but it can be explained away (i.e., High Sparrow can say that they don't want to get involved in political matters, just cares about souls, etc.). I imagine Cersei is going to bring it up at her trial.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:02 am
by Norah
Good on the show killing of Ser Barristan. Instead we get to watch those cringe-worthy Tyrion/Grey Worm/Missandei scenes,
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:17 am
by Zantac Junkie
Simple Torture wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:So in the books Cersei is going on trial for, among other things, the incest with Jaime that led to him fathering the Baratheon children. I assume this is also what she's on trial for in the show, which means Tommen's complicity with the Faith makes no sense. If she's guilty then he's not king.
They should address it at some point since it's just a big meatball sitting there, but it can be explained away (i.e., High Sparrow can say that they don't want to get involved in political matters, just cares about souls, etc.). I imagine Cersei is going to bring it up at her trial.
I don't think Cersei is planning on attending her trial, which will be a convenient way to get all her enemies in one place.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:18 am
by Zantac Junkie
cutuphalfdead wrote:Good on the show killing of Ser Barristan. Instead we get to watch those cringe-worthy Tyrion/Grey Worm/Missandei scenes,
Yeah, I really hate what they've done with Peter Dinklage this year. It's my one major disappointment in what has otherwise been a really good season.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:18 am
by spike
Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Good on the show killing of Ser Barristan. Instead we get to watch those cringe-worthy Tyrion/Grey Worm/Missandei scenes,
Yeah, I really hate what they've done with Peter Dinklage this year. It's my one major disappointment in what has otherwise been a really good season.
he was absent for the previous two eps ffs
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:19 am
by Norah
spike wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Good on the show killing of Ser Barristan. Instead we get to watch those cringe-worthy Tyrion/Grey Worm/Missandei scenes,
Yeah, I really hate what they've done with Peter Dinklage this year. It's my one major disappointment in what has otherwise been a really good season.
he was absent for the previous two eps ffs
Yeah, but when we have seen him it's been horrible.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:29 am
by spike
cutuphalfdead wrote:spike wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Good on the show killing of Ser Barristan. Instead we get to watch those cringe-worthy Tyrion/Grey Worm/Missandei scenes,
Yeah, I really hate what they've done with Peter Dinklage this year. It's my one major disappointment in what has otherwise been a really good season.
he was absent for the previous two eps ffs
Yeah, but when we have seen him it's been horrible.
hopefully this attack on mereen means it's time for drogon to roast all the masters once and for all, grey worm and missandei can be placed as the heads of slaver's bay, and dany and tyrion can finally get their butts headed to westeros next season. no more essos, no more jokes.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:48 am
by Mecca
I smell the splinter greyjoy forces making their way to meereen in the last episode
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 3:54 am
by spike
Mecca wrote:I smell the splinter greyjoy forces making their way to meereen in the last episode
the last episode has the potential to be a real humdinger. dany set to cross the narrow sea, cersei set to burn king's landing to the ground, lady stoneheart.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:02 am
by Norah
Lady Stoneheart is not happening. I'm convinced.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:03 am
by Norah
Edmure said it's been years since the Red Wedding. Either she's decomposed and gone at this point, or she came back years ago in which case she would have been hiding off screen this whole time which would be really stupid, even for these guys.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:07 am
by spike
i mean, she doesn't play a big part in the overall plot; it'd just be a big reveal for book readers at this point.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:08 am
by Mecca
spike wrote:i mean, she doesn't play a big part in the overall plot; it'd just be a big reveal for book readers at this point.
she still could play a part in the books as there's a reason they've brought the brotherhood and their nooses out in the show
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:09 am
by Norah
Yeah I think she's going to play a decent part in the books going forward.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:26 am
by Norah
AV Club review nails perfectly how the show handled the arya in braavos storyline:
As with the books, the basic thematics of Arya’s time with the Faceless Men makes sense to me: Arya is stripped of key parts of herself in an exploration of who she really is, having been living numerous other identities since she ran from King’s Landing. But the actual mechanics of it have been muddled in the show, such that when Jaqen claims that killing the Waif has somehow made her “no one” I have legitimately no bloody clue what he’s going on about. This was the moment the story was building toward—Arya reclaiming her name and deciding to return home—but the procedure of it ended up feeling lost in the opaque logic that governs the Faceless Men and Arya’s training. “No One” should not mean nothing, and yet it does in the context the show has presented it in, and that strikes me as a missed opportunity.
Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books
Posted: Mon June 13, 2016 4:42 am
by Mecca
braavos was arya's deprivation tank?