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Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:05 am
by epilogue
Self wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:Someone (harmless?) said this is a song whose long term staying power will depend on the context and depth the album supplies. That seems right.
Yes. Forever what I'll refer to as Got Some syndrome.
Man, I do not like Got Some. Not even a little bit. Alright, maybe a little bit. Maybe not, though.
When I first hear it though, I was over the moon for that song. That live version on Conan (or wherever) just floored me. I've soured on the thing quite a bit since. And hearing it in the context of Backspacer actually hurt it for me, I think. Though, I still think it's one of the better songs on that record, if it had just been a one off single, like Ole, I think it may have aged better for me. Maybe not. But maybe.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:05 am
by Mecca
I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:07 am
by epilogue
Mecca wrote:I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
Based solely on the first time I heard each of them, I like MYM way better. STBC has grown on me quite a bit. Maybe MYM will age poorly. But based on listens on the day of release, MYM has it by a mile.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:07 am
by Thejambi
Mecca wrote:I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
- Spoiler: show
- It's better than Spin the Black Circle
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:08 am
by stip
I have a theory regarding the title, but I am on an iPad tapping with two fingers so it will have to wait
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:08 am
by Mecca
Thejambi wrote:Mecca wrote:I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
- Spoiler: show
- It's better than Spin the Black Circle
That's a ridiculous notion.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:09 am
by Thejambi
Mecca wrote:Thejambi wrote:Mecca wrote:I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
- Spoiler: show
- It's better than Spin the Black Circle
That's a ridiculous notion.
It being regarded as a benchmark for a good song is.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:10 am
by bodysnatcher
stip wrote:I have a theory regarding the title, but I am on an iPad tapping with two fingers so it will have to wait
I remember Ed during interviews of Backspacer (maybe the EPK?) talking about catching lightning in a bottle in terms of writing songs. That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the album title.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:10 am
by epilogue
stip wrote:I have a theory regarding the title, but I am on an iPad tapping with two fingers so it will have to wait
FUCK YOU AND YOUR COCK TEASING WAYS
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:11 am
by Self
McParadigm wrote:I have my fingers crossed. Like I said, by itself it's not actually much of anything to me. Not offensive, not exciting, just....sort of there. But context could really sell it well.
The one time I crossed my fingers, everything went to shit. I know it's just an expression, but this one time, I actually crossed my fingers... Haven't done it since. Still hoping for the best though.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:14 am
by Mecca
Thejambi wrote:Mecca wrote:Thejambi wrote:Mecca wrote:I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
- Spoiler: show
- It's better than Spin the Black Circle
That's a ridiculous notion.
It being regarded as a benchmark for a good song is.
I was talking about your notion that it required a spoiler tag. As a moderator of this pearl jam message board, I must ask you to cease and desist.
But seriously, spin the black circle makes me want to work out and I'm a lazy piece of shit. Mind Your Manners has a lot of guitar licks that sound like they want to be STBC. Listen; it's there. This isn't a comparison of the merits of the songs, just that I hear the similarities and MYM falls short in what STBC did that what I felt made it strong.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:14 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
stip wrote:I have a theory regarding the title, but I am on an iPad tapping with two fingers so it will have to wait
I will wait patiently
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:16 am
by Jorge
Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:16 am
by BurtReynolds
Mecca wrote:Thejambi wrote:Mecca wrote:Thejambi wrote:Mecca wrote:I was bored with this song as it felt like a backspacer b-side. So many times in this song it felt like it wanted to be Spin the Black Circle but it just isn't quick or raw enough.
- Spoiler: show
- It's better than Spin the Black Circle
That's a ridiculous notion.
It being regarded as a benchmark for a good song is.
I was talking about your notion that it required a spoiler tag. As a moderator of this pearl jam message board, I must ask you to cease and desist.
But seriously, spin the black circle makes me want to work out and I'm a lazy piece of shit. Mind Your Manners has a lot of guitar licks that sound like they want to be STBC. Listen; it's there. This isn't a comparison of the merits of the songs, just that I hear the similarities and MYM falls short in what STBC did that what I felt made it strong.
The band that made STBC has been dead since before Yield.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:16 am
by Mecca
theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
This.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:18 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
Im not ready to say its better then anything else yet, but i wouldn't call it bland at all, but as usual it is all opinion
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:19 am
by Farmer John
I like how they just went ahead and downtuned it from the get go.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:19 am
by Mecca
Farmer John wrote:I like how they just went ahead and downtuned it from the get go.
Matt's gonna play it too fast live anyway.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:23 am
by Farmer John
Mecca wrote:Farmer John wrote:I like how they just went ahead and downtuned it from the get go.
Matt's gonna play it too fast live anyway.
This is one of those songs where I don't think I'd mind if it was played faster.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 12:23 am
by Rangi Guy
bodysnatcher wrote:
I remember Ed during interviews of Backspacer (maybe the EPK?) talking about catching lightning in a bottle in terms of writing songs. That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the album title.
This was my thoughts exactly