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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 6:37 pm
by McParadigm
"Welcome to the very famous White House."
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 6:38 pm
by 4/5
Simple Torture wrote:
For anybody else curious what the exact question was:
Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: 'The Bowling Green massacre shows why we need Donald Trump's executive order on immigration?'
Without a "There was no Bowling Green massacre" option it's probably wise to take this with a grain of salt. Still, it's kinda insane that only 23% of his supporters disagreed with the statement. I'm thinking some of the 25% who didn't know probably support the ban but know there wasn't a massacre.
But still. Jeez.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 6:47 pm
by 4/5
From
Politico's article on the Appellate Court's decision:
The decision says it is "well established" that when considering the legality of government actions courts can consider public comments such as Trump's public call for a ban on immigration by Muslims.
I don't know if Spenno is still around, but I'm curious what his take (or anyone else) is on this since he has been pretty adamant that the comments surrounding the ban don't matter at all and shouldn't be cause for people becoming hysterical about it since the ban doesn't say "Muslim", but this indicates that there is a judicial precedent in the U.S. that allows the courts to do just that when considering the constitutionality of an action.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 10:12 pm
by McParadigm
CNN: US investigators corroborate some aspects of the Russia dossier
Washington (CNN)For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration.
None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.
But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.
The corroboration, based on intercepted communications, has given US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of some aspects of the dossier as they continue to actively investigate its contents, these sources say.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 10:16 pm
by McParadigm
Between this and the NINE officials involved in the Flynn story, the intel community is leveraging the media something wild.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 10:42 pm
by McParadigm
Donald: The intelligence community loves me.
The intelligence community:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 10:53 pm
by surfndestroy
McParadigm wrote:Between this and the NINE officials involved in the Flynn story, the intel community is leveraging the media something wild.
Do you really think that's the intel community's job?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 11:22 pm
by McParadigm
surfndestroy wrote:McParadigm wrote:Between this and the NINE officials involved in the Flynn story, the intel community is leveraging the media something wild.
Do you really think that's the intel community's job?
That's a complicated question, and the only answer I can think of is "almost never."
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 11:22 pm
by McParadigm
Separate sources:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 11:36 pm
by Jorge
Wait... the pee stuff?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 10, 2017 11:49 pm
by Jorge
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 12:33 am
by McParadigm
theplatypus wrote:Wait... the pee stuff?
There's a note that some materials in the dossier may be Russian intelligence falsehoods. I assume that's the pee stuff...salacious details that will draw attention from crucial revelations, but may also help them determine leak sources if it comes out.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:07 am
by McParadigm
Hill: FEC commissioner to Trump: Show evidence of voter fraud
A commissioner on the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) called on President Trump to give proof of voter fraud, after he reportedly made further claims in a meeting with senators.
Trump reportedly blamed voter fraud for why both he and former Sen. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) lost in New Hampshire last November during a recent meeting with a bipartisan group of senators.
“The scheme the President of the United States alleges would constitute thousands of felony criminal offenses under New Hampshire law,” Commissioner Ellen Weintraub said in a statement Friday.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:18 am
by McParadigm
Buzzfeed adding more, from its sources:
US intelligence has confirmed several details in the explosive dossier about President Donald Trump's alleged ties to Russia, two American intelligence officials told BuzzFeed News on Friday.
CNN initially reported late Friday afternoon that parts of the 35-page dossier, which Trump has dismissed entirely as "fake news," stood up under further investigation from US intelligence and law enforcement. But CNN said it has not confirmed whether any of the confirmed details relate to Trump. The CNN report also indicated that the intercepted calls that led to the confirmation were solely between foreign nationals and picked up during routine intelligence gathering.
An intelligence source told BuzzFeed News that CNN's reporting was accurate, saying that the details that have been confirmed "are not the salacious allegations" of a sexual encounter in a Moscow hotel "but more about Trump's relationship with Russia." He declined to provide more details about the nature of that relationship, calling it "closely held."
Additionally, the source said, some of the other confirmed details amount to things "no one will care about," such as gossip among Russians who dislike Hillary Clinton.
A second US intelligence official working with federal law enforcement told BuzzFeed News, "Over the past two weeks we've determined some portions [of the dossier] are credible." The source said the determination was made after "multiple analysts" reviewed intercepted communications between Russian officials. He would not disclose the sections of the document that have been confirmed but, like the other intelligence source, said it was a small portion and was not the sensational details.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:26 am
by pepperwhiteMFC
I'm only one chapter into The Art of The Deal and Russian deals are mentioned. Keep in mind this book was Trump aged 42.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:30 am
by Strat
You trump morons are owned by the russians. Ugh.
Also, trump really didnt know the difference between a weak dollar and strong dollar. Why isn't this story hammered home a bit more? This guy is supposed to be a brilliant business man and does business all over the globe but he doesnt understand basic economic principles??Every time this thing pops into my head i just laugh.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:34 am
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:You trump morons are owned by the russians. Ugh.
Also, trump really didnt know the difference between a weak dollar and strong dollar. Why isn't this story hammered home a bit more? This guy is supposed to be a brilliant business man and does business all over the globe but he doesnt understand basic economic principles??Every time this thing pops into my head i just laugh.
We've had four years worth of news and disaster in just 3 weeks. For fucks sake, the dossier was almost lost news before tonight.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:34 am
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:Strat wrote:You trump morons are owned by the russians. Ugh.
Also, trump really didnt know the difference between a weak dollar and strong dollar. Why isn't this story hammered home a bit more? This guy is supposed to be a brilliant business man and does business all over the globe but he doesnt understand basic economic principles??Every time this thing pops into my head i just laugh.
We've had four years worth of news and disaster in just 3 weeks. For fucks sake, the dossier was almost lost news before tonight.
What a time to be alive.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:39 am
by wease
Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Strat wrote:You trump morons are owned by the russians. Ugh.
Also, trump really didnt know the difference between a weak dollar and strong dollar. Why isn't this story hammered home a bit more? This guy is supposed to be a brilliant business man and does business all over the globe but he doesnt understand basic economic principles??Every time this thing pops into my head i just laugh.
We've had four years worth of news and disaster in just 3 weeks. For fucks sake, the dossier was almost lost news before tonight.
What a time to be alive.
Hold on. And Sad.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat February 11, 2017 1:40 am
by Strat
wease wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:Strat wrote:You trump morons are owned by the russians. Ugh.
Also, trump really didnt know the difference between a weak dollar and strong dollar. Why isn't this story hammered home a bit more? This guy is supposed to be a brilliant business man and does business all over the globe but he doesnt understand basic economic principles??Every time this thing pops into my head i just laugh.
We've had four years worth of news and disaster in just 3 weeks. For fucks sake, the dossier was almost lost news before tonight.
What a time to be alive.
Hold on. And Sad.
*SAD!