Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:48 pm
Specifically, the way he sings "arms"?harmless wrote:The way he sings "...to send you in the arms of another man" is awesome. But it makes my autotune radar go off.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:48 pm
guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:49 pm
Everybody feels that way for the first few listens.stip wrote:guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:49 pm
I don't believe that for one minute.stip wrote:guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 1
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:50 pm
Getaway too. His singing is the melody.harmless wrote:Ed absolutely makes this song. That hasn't happened since I have no idea.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:50 pm
there's nothing particularly embarrassing about this song. It's just a song I never expected to really hear.WtOB? wrote:guys, i'm enjoying this and for some reason i feel embarrassed by that.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:50 pm
Maybe they just thought that even more crescendo and drama would've pushed it even further off the cheese knife-edge. Other songs in their catalogue just pare it back enough to not send it totally into cheese territory. This one goes much further and wanks longer but still doesn't fully ejaculate.stip wrote:Tuolumne wrote:I think Pearl Jam is one of those bands that you either buy into or not. There's always been a sincere and earnestness that either people have loved or makes some uncomfortable. There's a certain hokiness you buy into, I've felt, since Ten. The Nirvana/Sonic Youth side of the spectrum hated Ten cause they liked the whole "detached cool" thing. That hokiness is something very American, and which resonates in a very middle-American way. It's something that alot of people eat up but doesn't necessarily stand up well to critical review (the kind that happens in journalism and now message boards).stip wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:In a broad sense, I think "cheesy" (or "corny," or any of its many synonyms) typically refers to something that feels emotionally phony despite the fact that it is manipulated and manufactured to be just the opposite. Think of those big Nashville ballads sung from the perspective of dads giving their daughters away to be married, or soldiers coming home from the war in pine boxes while the entire town of Pissville, Kentucy stands by saluting, unable to decide if their tears are tears of grief or tears of pure American pride. Really just listen to a pop country station for a half hour and you'll have a pretty good understanding of the term.stip wrote:Cheesiness is increasingly becoming a word I think needs to be defined with examples before being used.
To use a more relevant example, I would cite the difference between hearing "Future Days" with all the accompaniment from Wrigley, and hearing the unadorned inner-ear monitor thing that leaked, with just Eddie and the guitar. The latter is a naked and honest sentiment (albeit not a particularly exciting one, and not a particularly great song), but when you bring in the piano, the strings, etc. you get this feeling of someone behind the curtain really trying to sell that emotion, to put it across in a theatrical, unduly dramatic way. That's where the manipulation comes in, and I think where most people get off the wagon.
I'm not sure I agree with this, since it doesn't seem to account for something that is cheesy but still genuinely moving. Maybe what you describe is one end of a cheese continuum.
I am always okay with this and don't have the cheese radar others seem to. Eddie sounds very nice, and the song so far is pleasant, but kinda featureless. Best case scenario it becomes hypnotic and sweeps you lazily along with it. But this is a long song to not really have dramatic moments.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:51 pm
I think that means it's starting to work its magic on you...stip wrote:guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 1
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:51 pm
Yeah, most of these songs actually.Dugg wrote:Getaway too. His singing is the melody.harmless wrote:Ed absolutely makes this song. That hasn't happened since I have no idea.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:52 pm
Long time dweller, first time poster. Just heard Sirens for the 4th time. Sounds like a love child of Elderly Woman and Otherside. *Perpares to be shunned* I really like this song. *Puts shield up*
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:52 pm
I need to hear a clearer mix, but there's some moments in the first verse of Swallowed Whole that very distinctly sound of autotune. There are several moments here that suggest it, too. But that's no surprise...they've been using it since S/T.HardTI wrote:Specifically, the way he sings "arms"?harmless wrote:The way he sings "...to send you in the arms of another man" is awesome. But it makes my autotune radar go off.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:52 pm
Leave it at 'Why?' and call it a day.stip wrote:guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:52 pm
And true enough, Sirens sets you up for the cheese of Lightning Bolt perfectly.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:53 pm
"I don't know what this is" is a great reaction.Jaeti wrote:I think that means it's starting to work its magic on you...stip wrote:guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:54 pm
Yeah, I Liked the "last 4" pretty much from the first listen..... This one reminds me of something and I don't think it's gonna be good when I figure out what it is.
I dont want to really judge it yet.... I think I like the solo
I dont want to really judge it yet.... I think I like the solo
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:54 pm
i am on my 4th listen and I am stumped.evenslow wrote:I've been perplexed by PJ before but never stumped.
I'm stumped, team.
i haven't focused on the story yet and won't until i get caught up in the l-bolt thread, but stumped is the right word.
This is the most challenging pearl jam song I've ever heard insofar as I am utterly caught off guard by it.
I was even expecting 80s power ballad...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:55 pm
There's a bit on LB that sounded really weird in a autotune way to me, I thiiiiink its the 'yeahs' after that line about the notheast or northwest or whatever. I thought it was the file skipping at first.McParadigm wrote:I need to hear a clearer mix, but there's some moments in the first verse of Swallowed Whole that very distinctly sound of autotune. There are several moments here that suggest it, too. But that's no surprise...they've been using it since S/T.HardTI wrote:Specifically, the way he sings "arms"?harmless wrote:The way he sings "...to send you in the arms of another man" is awesome. But it makes my autotune radar go off.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:57 pm
Me either. It's nowhere near what I was expecting it to sound like.stip wrote:guys, I have no idea what the fuck I'm going to say about this song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:58 pm
i just want you to know that this post is enhanced by your avatarstupidmop wrote:I hope eddie gave mark arm a copy of this to listen to and in turn mark arm gave him a kick to the crotch.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Tue September 17, 2013 5:58 pm
I assume the next time I hear this will be while I wait for my wife to buy baby clothes at Kohls.