Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
I bet Sleeping is gonna be just super out there, guys.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
They got families, and kids, and a beige labrador, and timed lawn sprinklers, and an appointment with the speech therapist at pre school, and a binder of coupons from the local 7/11...stupidmop wrote:Where do they go from this though? If I was optimistic I'd say somewhere strange, but realistically I'm thinking deeper into the shitbyss.BurtReynolds wrote:So incredibly true. For years, all I heard was how PJ was a breathe of fresh air when all the music sounded like this. we have come full circle.stip wrote:this is an accurate statement.McParadigm wrote:If somebody had released this song in 1994-2002, I would have pointed to it and said "See, THAT'S exactly what Pearl Jam will never sound like."Yeah, that is probably the most commercial song they've ever made. Heavy production/layers in there.
**That's not a values statement. That's an explanation of what makes it confusing to hear for the first time.

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
This just may be true.Tuolumne wrote:Maybe PJ are in that "there's no guilty pleasures anymore" stage with this?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Exactly. I need to learn the words so I can give it this test on the car ride home from work.stip wrote:
This song will be great or a skipper based entirely on one factor and one factor only: Will I want to belt this song out at the top of my lungs.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
It definitely has that Counting Crows "looking out of a motel room window at night" feel to it.bucketfinck wrote:Listened to it two times now - its a good song, have no idea where to put it in the Pearl jam catalog but I can definetely see this as a radio hit.
People listing bands like Extreme, Bon Jovi, Guns `n is far off (apart from the solo). I Know these bands as they are a big part of my Music taste too.
The band I will compare this too is Counting Crows, very much in the way the vocal harmonies are layered and the country twang, but its nothing Pearl Jam fans should be ashamed of
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now please define "challenging for RM" because apparently it means something else entirelyharmless wrote:"Challenging" is anything that defeats expectations to the extent that they have to stretch themselves to it, not the other way round. "Challenging" is off-putting, something which challenges you for whatever reason. Even if you hear Dillinger Escape Plan's rhythms and ejaculate from your ears, it doesn't make the rhythms unchallenging. Binaural and Riot Act aren't "challenging" to 90% of the people here. The challenge here is "Will you still be into this if we choose to go in this direction?" The answer to that challenge, from most of us, has been no.Heathen wrote:hmm no, that post clearly says the song is challenging, right here: what is this song if not challenging?warehouse wrote:that post says people wish PJ were still challenging, meaning they arent anymore. or at least this "sirens" song hasnt been called "challenging" by anyone but stip, and even then he was talking about describing the song, not the song itself.Heathen wrote:warehouse wrote:LOL, did anyone other than stip use the word "challenging"?lecherouslittlestump wrote:red mosquito: stunned...speechless...never heard a song like this before, so challenging
rest of the internet: sounds a bit like Nickelback
good try thoughAbsolutely. It's like when people wish PJ were challenging and alienating still, like Stone said this album would be, "like No Code." Well, it is (what is this song if not challenging?), but this time it's Red Mosquito being alienated, not the Pit. It kind of hurts when you're the one being alienated!
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
I think I've written them out accurately in the song thread.rosser0432 wrote:Exactly. I need to learn the words so I can give it this test on the car ride home from work.stip wrote:
This song will be great or a skipper based entirely on one factor and one factor only: Will I want to belt this song out at the top of my lungs.
Stip, they might want saving in the OP.
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It'll be amazing.stip wrote:Will I want to belt this song out at the top of my lungs.
I have no idea. If I do it'll be amazing. If I don't it'll be an ipod shuffle listen.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
warehouse wrote:stipianIlluminEddie wrote:stip wrote: wishlist is one of the strongest pieces of writing in the catalog, lyrically.
This is one of the most retarded statements I've ever read. I like Wishlist (the song) for what it is. But, claiming wishlist is one of PJs strongest pieces of lyrical writing is hysterical...
...it's well, well, well below average - lyrically. This statement seems, somewhat... what's the word ---- contrarian?
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I don't mean challenging as difficult or complex--it's challenging in that I find myself uncertain what to say when confronted by this song. I've written over 250 pages in those guided tour threads alone. this is a new experience for me.warehouse wrote:LOL, did anyone other than stip use the word "challenging"?lecherouslittlestump wrote:red mosquito: stunned...speechless...never heard a song like this before, so challenging
rest of the internet: sounds a bit like Nickelback
good try though
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I agree with stip.IlluminEddie wrote:warehouse wrote:stipianIlluminEddie wrote:stip wrote: wishlist is one of the strongest pieces of writing in the catalog, lyrically.
This is one of the most retarded statements I've ever read. I like Wishlist (the song) for what it is. But, claiming wishlist is one of PJs strongest pieces of lyrical writing is hysterical...
...it's well, well, well below average - lyrically. This statement seems, somewhat... what's the word ---- contrarian?
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Don't get sucked into the Illumineddie vortex stip.
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Thanks, I'll check them outharmless wrote:I think I've written them out accurately in the song thread.rosser0432 wrote:Exactly. I need to learn the words so I can give it this test on the car ride home from work.stip wrote:
This song will be great or a skipper based entirely on one factor and one factor only: Will I want to belt this song out at the top of my lungs.
Stip, they might want saving in the OP.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
I don't know if I've ever seen such a mixed reaction over a PJ song, think I need to leave work early today...
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IlluminEddie wrote:stip wrote:those are two of my favorite songs, and on my first two listens I'm not feeling this one.IlluminEddie wrote:You'll like this song if you liked Betterman and Wishlist style songs. It's a commercial song that will get recognition. If you don't like that, you'll hate this. It's a pop song. Meaning nothing more than... popular culture will like it.
So, my guess, most here will hate it. #hipsters
Not sure you're a hipster or not, stip. I would think you're more of the type that wants PJ to have loads of fans. But, I may be wrong.
But, the point was popular culture will enjoy this. Many hardcore fans won't. The most pop-friendly PJ songs I could think of were those two at the time. So, that's what I meant. It falls into that category.
I am most defintiely not a hipster. I probably anchor whatever side of the scale the opposite of a hipster is.
I agree this could be a very popular if it gets the right kind of audience.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Nickelback wishes they'd written a song as good as this.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
It's really too bad Friday Night Lights isn't still around. This has closing 5-minute montage written all over it.stip wrote:I agree this could be a very popular if it gets the right kind of audience.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
She'd probably be happy not to waste her time on a Pearl Jam tattoo.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:i cant believer you are gonna take the money out of the artists pocketBurtReynolds wrote:I still want to hear My Father's Son and Pendulum, but I think I can safely call it: Lightning Bolt and the band that spawned it are not for me.
I'm cancelling my appointment for that PJ tattoo as I type this.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
harmless wrote:I agree with stip.IlluminEddie wrote:warehouse wrote:stipianIlluminEddie wrote:stip wrote: wishlist is one of the strongest pieces of writing in the catalog, lyrically.
This is one of the most retarded statements I've ever read. I like Wishlist (the song) for what it is. But, claiming wishlist is one of PJs strongest pieces of lyrical writing is hysterical...
...it's well, well, well below average - lyrically. This statement seems, somewhat... what's the word ---- contrarian?
You obviously don't know what you're talking about too. Congrats.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
i typed out a response and deleted itevenslow wrote:Don't get sucked into the Illumineddie vortex stip.
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