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Donald Trump (R)
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44%
Joe Biden (D)
55
41%
Jacob Hornberger (L)
1
1%
Howie Hawkins (G)
1
1%
Other
1
1%
COVID-19
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12%
 
Total votes: 133

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:Also fuck republicans for hammering on about "less government" but have no problem with the government infringing on a womans rights and marriage equality.
TRUMP IS PRO GAY MARRIAGE. And I seriously only know a couple of republicans who aren’t. That’s another bullshit narrative. And protecting innocent life is more important that anyone’s “right” to kill it.
I'll be honest I'm not sure of Trump individually and gay marriage, I know he has pushed some anti-trans gender things recently. But I'll definitely disagree on the "most republicans" part. ALL republicans I know, including most of my family, are very anti gay marriage.
And yes, that is why i stated REPUBLICANS
I seriously only know a handful of Republicans that are against gay marriage. Honestly. In fact I’d guess about 90% of the republicans I know could not possibly care less about the subject. That includes me.
Everyone in my office is pro-pineapple on pizza, but that doesn't mean shit for the nation's opinion.
So I guess wease’s argument is invalid? And mine too? Cool.
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PHATJ wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:Also fuck republicans for hammering on about "less government" but have no problem with the government infringing on a womans rights and marriage equality.
TRUMP IS PRO GAY MARRIAGE. And I seriously only know a couple of republicans who aren’t. That’s another bullshit narrative. And protecting innocent life is more important that anyone’s “right” to kill it.
I'll be honest I'm not sure of Trump individually and gay marriage, I know he has pushed some anti-trans gender things recently. But I'll definitely disagree on the "most republicans" part. ALL republicans I know, including most of my family, are very anti gay marriage.
And yes, that is why i stated REPUBLICANS
I seriously only know a handful of Republicans that are against gay marriage. Honestly. In fact I’d guess about 90% of the republicans I know could not possibly care less about the subject. That includes me.
Everyone in my office is pro-pineapple on pizza, but that doesn't mean shit for the nation's opinion.
So I guess wease’s argument is invalid? And mine too? Cool.
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal evidence.

Look at trends via national polling data:

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Further polling suggests that only 44 percent of Republicans support same-sex marriage in 2019, compared to 75 percent of Democrats.

https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/cha ... -marriage/
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PHATJ wrote: No matter how much justification you want to give it, it’s still sucking a baby’s brain out with a vacuum, tearing its human body limb from limb, dismembering it and pulling it out piece by piece. All while that baby feels pain and has a beating heart. So yeah, you go ahead and be offended that I am pro-life. I’ll be offended that you justify carnage and call it “choice”.
This is why people can’t have discussions and disagree without it becoming uncivilized. Again, ascribing some abstract concept at its most extreme and demanding that those who do not agree with you support tearing children apart limb from limb. So if you are pro- choice you are pro-dismemberment. This is exactly the problem. I am not sure what whacko internet site/ presidential rally convinced you this is the case or commonplace or how things go, but it’s not reality at all. And to ascribe, by name or implication, that there are large swaths of people who get their jollies off supporting such a practice is the exact disinformation and lies that make it impossible to have a real discussion.
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liebzz wrote:
PHATJ wrote: No matter how much justification you want to give it, it’s still sucking a baby’s brain out with a vacuum, tearing its human body limb from limb, dismembering it and pulling it out piece by piece. All while that baby feels pain and has a beating heart. So yeah, you go ahead and be offended that I am pro-life. I’ll be offended that you justify carnage and call it “choice”.
This is why people can’t have discussions and disagree without it becoming uncivilized. Again, ascribing some abstract concept at its most extreme and demanding that those who do not agree with you support tearing children apart limb from limb. So if you are pro- choice you are pro-dismemberment. This is exactly the problem. I am not sure what whacko internet site/ presidential rally convinced you this is the case or commonplace or how things go, but it’s not reality at all. And to ascribe, by name or implication, that there are large swaths of people who get their jollies off supporting such a practice is the exact disinformation and lies that make it impossible to have a real discussion.
I never said anyone gets their jollies off on it. Never even suggested that. You are twisting what my words. And I’m not exactly sure what you thinks during an abortion, but what I described is accurate. I have seen videos of the procedure. With little effort you can find them too. I also dated and lived with a woman that had had two abortions. She described her experiences in great detail to me. I’m not making anything up, you are denying reality.
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PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
liebzz wrote:The point is made in the details. Democrats do not support killing infants. You think it’s making a point that you have a girlfriend who is shifting politically, but comments like that are the exact obfuscation and lying that are the root of the problem. I don’t say republicans want to kill immigrants in firing squads because they don’t. Stop trying to set the starting point of a debate on democrats support killing infants. There’s no rational discussion to be had when you blow credibility by demanding democrats support things that they don’t, including infanticide, partial birth abortion, socialism, free and open borders, etc. THAT is the reason we can’t have a peaceful political discussion.
But that is what his facebook meme said to him
Get the fuck off that, Strat. I posted some memes that annoyed you. Get over it.
It's everything you post. As everyone in this thread has pointed out to you on a regular basis.
Everything I post? Did you read the last page? Fuck off with that nonsense. There’s literally an entire thread of thousands of political memes, of which I’ve posted a tiny percentage, and I’m fairly certain the VAST majority of the other memes and posters are significantly liberal sided. You are just being a bitch about the memes I post. Get over it.
I'll get over it when a certain sect of society stops getting their information from bullshit memes. Also, yea, i read the last page about you hammering on about your GF and her political views and also aligning patriotism with being a member of the NRA, and democrats being pro baby killers.
Hammering on my girlfriend? That’s completely inaccurate and just a flat out lie. I didn’t align being an NRA member to being a patriot (I’m not a member, never have been, and have no interest in joining), I mentioned it so that you assholes would see that not every democrat has to believe the liberal lie that the NRA is a fucking terrorist organization. And killing babies in the womb is simply that; killing babies. I don’t give a fuck if that offends you. That’s reality. No matter how much justification you want to give it, it’s still sucking a baby’s brain out with a vacuum, tearing its human body limb from limb, dismembering it and pulling it out piece by piece. All while that baby feels pain and has a beating heart and active brain. So yeah, you go ahead and be offended that I am pro-life. I’ll be offended that you justify carnage and call it “choice”.
So much to unwrap here but its clear nobody can have a legit conversation with you. Also, ALMOST EVERY DEMOCRAT I KNOW HAS NO PROBLEM WITH OWNING A FUCKING GUN. So, i hate to break it to you, but your little fox news bubble has brainwashed you as well. Get over yourself.
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Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
liebzz wrote:The point is made in the details. Democrats do not support killing infants. You think it’s making a point that you have a girlfriend who is shifting politically, but comments like that are the exact obfuscation and lying that are the root of the problem. I don’t say republicans want to kill immigrants in firing squads because they don’t. Stop trying to set the starting point of a debate on democrats support killing infants. There’s no rational discussion to be had when you blow credibility by demanding democrats support things that they don’t, including infanticide, partial birth abortion, socialism, free and open borders, etc. THAT is the reason we can’t have a peaceful political discussion.
But that is what his facebook meme said to him
Get the fuck off that, Strat. I posted some memes that annoyed you. Get over it.
It's everything you post. As everyone in this thread has pointed out to you on a regular basis.
Everything I post? Did you read the last page? Fuck off with that nonsense. There’s literally an entire thread of thousands of political memes, of which I’ve posted a tiny percentage, and I’m fairly certain the VAST majority of the other memes and posters are significantly liberal sided. You are just being a bitch about the memes I post. Get over it.
I'll get over it when a certain sect of society stops getting their information from bullshit memes. Also, yea, i read the last page about you hammering on about your GF and her political views and also aligning patriotism with being a member of the NRA, and democrats being pro baby killers.
Hammering on my girlfriend? That’s completely inaccurate and just a flat out lie. I didn’t align being an NRA member to being a patriot (I’m not a member, never have been, and have no interest in joining), I mentioned it so that you assholes would see that not every democrat has to believe the liberal lie that the NRA is a fucking terrorist organization. And killing babies in the womb is simply that; killing babies. I don’t give a fuck if that offends you. That’s reality. No matter how much justification you want to give it, it’s still sucking a baby’s brain out with a vacuum, tearing its human body limb from limb, dismembering it and pulling it out piece by piece. All while that baby feels pain and has a beating heart and active brain. So yeah, you go ahead and be offended that I am pro-life. I’ll be offended that you justify carnage and call it “choice”.
So much to unwrap here but its clear nobody can have a legit conversation with you. Also, ALMOST EVERY DEMOCRAT I KNOW HAS NO PROBLEM WITH OWNING A FUCKING GUN. So, i hate to break it to you, but your little fox news bubble has brainwashed you as well. Get over yourself.
P.s. I also don’t own a gun. And I am all for things like background checks and waiting periods. I am also very open to discussions about further measures to limit access to high capacity magazines, etc.
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PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
liebzz wrote:The point is made in the details. Democrats do not support killing infants. You think it’s making a point that you have a girlfriend who is shifting politically, but comments like that are the exact obfuscation and lying that are the root of the problem. I don’t say republicans want to kill immigrants in firing squads because they don’t. Stop trying to set the starting point of a debate on democrats support killing infants. There’s no rational discussion to be had when you blow credibility by demanding democrats support things that they don’t, including infanticide, partial birth abortion, socialism, free and open borders, etc. THAT is the reason we can’t have a peaceful political discussion.
But that is what his facebook meme said to him
Get the fuck off that, Strat. I posted some memes that annoyed you. Get over it.
It's everything you post. As everyone in this thread has pointed out to you on a regular basis.
Everything I post? Did you read the last page? Fuck off with that nonsense. There’s literally an entire thread of thousands of political memes, of which I’ve posted a tiny percentage, and I’m fairly certain the VAST majority of the other memes and posters are significantly liberal sided. You are just being a bitch about the memes I post. Get over it.
I'll get over it when a certain sect of society stops getting their information from bullshit memes. Also, yea, i read the last page about you hammering on about your GF and her political views and also aligning patriotism with being a member of the NRA, and democrats being pro baby killers.
Hammering on my girlfriend? That’s completely inaccurate and just a flat out lie. I didn’t align being an NRA member to being a patriot (I’m not a member, never have been, and have no interest in joining), I mentioned it so that you assholes would see that not every democrat has to believe the liberal lie that the NRA is a fucking terrorist organization. And killing babies in the womb is simply that; killing babies. I don’t give a fuck if that offends you. That’s reality. No matter how much justification you want to give it, it’s still sucking a baby’s brain out with a vacuum, tearing its human body limb from limb, dismembering it and pulling it out piece by piece. All while that baby feels pain and has a beating heart and active brain. So yeah, you go ahead and be offended that I am pro-life. I’ll be offended that you justify carnage and call it “choice”.
So much to unwrap here but its clear nobody can have a legit conversation with you. Also, ALMOST EVERY DEMOCRAT I KNOW HAS NO PROBLEM WITH OWNING A FUCKING GUN. So, i hate to break it to you, but your little fox news bubble has brainwashed you as well. Get over yourself.
P.s. I also don’t own a gun. And I am all for things like background checks and waiting periods. I am also very open to discussions about further measures to limit access to high capacity magazines, etc.
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It finally stopped. Did Josh get a job?
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PHATJ wrote:American sees what huge assholes and arrogant pricks the left is.

I’m familiar with this “Democrats are so full of hate! Oh how I hate them for their endless hate!” zealotry. Every grievance you don’t share must be faked. Every political ambition you oppose must be secretly corrupted. Every policy idea you dislike must be a scheme. When you feel anger towards others, it is legitimate. When others feel anger towards your political teammates, it is unhinged bitterness. Every fear you don’t share is just a manipulative posture. You look at people whose values and desires are different from you and can’t see anything but hate. And in that righteousness, you are able to recognize the falseness of any evidence to the contrary.

There’s a lot of this attitude in the place where I grew up, and my experience is that the people who enter into it often have very little trouble reaching the next logical step: when I hurt you, it is justified.
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verb_to_trust wrote:It finally stopped. Did Josh get a job?


this would all be more worthwhile if it resulted in splinter arguing between the board progressives but it’s not
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96583UP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:It finally stopped. Did Josh get a job?


this would all be more worthwhile if it resulted in splinter arguing between the board progressives but it’s not
Josh needs to go to propaganda retraining in Moscow.
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verb_to_trust wrote:
96583UP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:It finally stopped. Did Josh get a job?


this would all be more worthwhile if it resulted in splinter arguing between the board progressives but it’s not
Josh needs to go to propaganda retraining in Moscow.
We are all doing Putin's work for him this time
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96583UP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
96583UP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:It finally stopped. Did Josh get a job?


this would all be more worthwhile if it resulted in splinter arguing between the board progressives but it’s not
Josh needs to go to propaganda retraining in Moscow.
We are all doing Putin's work for him this time
You gave phatj a happy ending massage?
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verb_to_trust wrote:
96583UP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
96583UP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:It finally stopped. Did Josh get a job?


this would all be more worthwhile if it resulted in splinter arguing between the board progressives but it’s not
Josh needs to go to propaganda retraining in Moscow.
We are all doing Putin's work for him this time
You gave phatj a happy ending massage?
it seemed like it might cheer him up
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Newly Released Power Rankings:

Bernie Sanders > Mike Bloomberg > Joe Biden > Cory Booker > Pete Buttigieg > Andrew Yang > Hillary Clinton > Carbon Rod > Elizabeth Warren > the rest
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Stop trying to make Bloomberg a thing.
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but he polled more favorably than Yang! among 838 people interviewed, 46% of whom viewed Trump 'favorably'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... oll-finds/
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I don't want to shock you guys, but I can't stand this Lizzo thing.
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verb_to_trust wrote:I don't want to shock you guys, but I can't stand this Lizzo thing.
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