Re: Can't Deny Me
Posted: Sat October 05, 2024 4:26 pm
Hard disagree. Can't Deny Me's lyrics are unsubtle and uninspiring, but there are lyrics all over the last four albums that I adore.96583UP wrote:Ed def ran out of good lyrics a long time ago
IckLeatherhead wrote:Ed's best lyrics are in Johnny Guitar.
With a leg under a red dress I wish I could see
Further North a warmth alive & lingering
96583UP wrote:ever since Writer’s Block it’s all been downhill
You really hate anything thats not middle path.tragabigzanda wrote:It’s interesting to see how Jeff Tweedy can write clever and subtle lyrics about the Trump era. This could be from either side of the aisle:96583UP wrote:it's funny this song thread got bumped, i was thinking about this song within the last 1-2 days
have been watching that Eddie & Jeff interview with Bill Simmons. Just a nice reminder of how good a guy Ed is.
We shit all over this song when it came out. It was intended to roast DJT. It was well-intended, but the execution far from snapped.
made me think how Ed meant well but at this phase of life / age / career just couldn't bring the musical gusto or vocal delivery necessary to match the strength of the intent with the actual end product
I love my country like a little boy
Red, white, and blue
I love my country, stupid and cruel
Red, white, and blue
All you have to do is sing in the choir
Kill yourself every once in a while
And sing in the choir with me
All you have to do is sing in the choir
Set yourself on fire every once in a while
And sing in the choir
With me
With me
I love my country like a little child
Red, white, and blue
I love my country, stupid and cruel
Red, white, and blue
All you have to do is sing in the choir
All you have to do is sing in the choir
All you have to do is sing in the choir
With me
With me
And then you compare that with something like Quick Escape
Nah. Johnny Guitars lyrics are fantastic. Super playful, great wordplay, delivers exactly the intent of the song. Very clever and funepilogue wrote:IckLeatherhead wrote:Ed's best lyrics are in Johnny Guitar.
With a leg under a red dress I wish I could see
Further North a warmth alive & lingering
Not sure why pj/EV circa 91-24 ever hit your heart center.tragabigzanda wrote:As it relates explicitly to our current political climate, yes, you are generally rightStrat wrote:You really hate anything thats not middle path.tragabigzanda wrote:It’s interesting to see how Jeff Tweedy can write clever and subtle lyrics about the Trump era. This could be from either side of the aisle:96583UP wrote:it's funny this song thread got bumped, i was thinking about this song within the last 1-2 days
have been watching that Eddie & Jeff interview with Bill Simmons. Just a nice reminder of how good a guy Ed is.
We shit all over this song when it came out. It was intended to roast DJT. It was well-intended, but the execution far from snapped.
made me think how Ed meant well but at this phase of life / age / career just couldn't bring the musical gusto or vocal delivery necessary to match the strength of the intent with the actual end product
I love my country like a little boy
Red, white, and blue
I love my country, stupid and cruel
Red, white, and blue
All you have to do is sing in the choir
Kill yourself every once in a while
And sing in the choir with me
All you have to do is sing in the choir
Set yourself on fire every once in a while
And sing in the choir
With me
With me
I love my country like a little child
Red, white, and blue
I love my country, stupid and cruel
Red, white, and blue
All you have to do is sing in the choir
All you have to do is sing in the choir
All you have to do is sing in the choir
With me
With me
And then you compare that with something like Quick Escape
I never got the sense Quick Escape was specifically about Trump. More of a finding a scapegoat for your problems, running away, and then realizing you had it pretty good.tragabigzanda wrote:Seriously though…
Quick Escape is no Bushleaguer, but also I’m not 21 years old anymore.
At face value, the two songs might appear similar, given that they’re direct affronts to Republican presidents, written from the vantage point of the guy on the left.
But Bushleaguer has a sneaky musical structure, with little bits of creativity woven throughout; the energy never rises above a 6/10, and while Bush’s name is in the title, the lyrics are cryptic enough to make you do a little work to connect all the dots (or even find new meaning with repeated listens).
And then Quick Escape is the exact opposite of all that. Just utterly exhausting, basic, myopic music and lyrics, from top to bottom.
you can't fit everything that's ruining the planet into a single song, but MAGA is a good example of something ruining the planettragabigzanda wrote:I think that’s accurate, but the Trump thing just immediately politicizes it. Is he suggesting that Democrats don’t harvest resources, leverage capitalism, harm the environment? They had to get away because MAGA ruined the planet?Monkey_Driven wrote:I never got the sense Quick Escape was specifically about Trump. More of a finding a scapegoat for your problems, running away, and then realizing you had it pretty good.tragabigzanda wrote:Seriously though…
Quick Escape is no Bushleaguer, but also I’m not 21 years old anymore.
At face value, the two songs might appear similar, given that they’re direct affronts to Republican presidents, written from the vantage point of the guy on the left.
But Bushleaguer has a sneaky musical structure, with little bits of creativity woven throughout; the energy never rises above a 6/10, and while Bush’s name is in the title, the lyrics are cryptic enough to make you do a little work to connect all the dots (or even find new meaning with repeated listens).
And then Quick Escape is the exact opposite of all that. Just utterly exhausting, basic, myopic music and lyrics, from top to bottom.
I mean my real problem with the song is the music; it gives me a headache. But the lyrics make things worse.